One Thing About Kerry
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But, Kerry is from Massachusetts, home of nutts like Senator Ted Kennedy, Rep. Barney Franks, etc. etc. Not much good comes from Massachusetts ---at least politically. Kerry must be cut from the same cloth to have been elected there. And, in true democratic party fashion, he is not a true leader ---rather he would try to lead the Clinton way ---send up the trial balloon on every issue and see whhich way the wind is blowing that day -----no convictions, no moral compass, and no backbone. He is already demonstrating this daily when his criticisms of Bush are inconsistent with his previous positions within the last few years. He voted for the recent War with IRAQ, but now thinks we should not have gone to war. In 1991, he voted against the first war with IRAQ, when the coalition was larger and the UN on board. With these confusing positions, how would he ever make a decision about something as important as our national security and defense. It would be paralysis by analysis. A true leader makes an informed deceision based upon the best evidence available to achieve what is best for the country and to protect the interests of THIS country. Bush did exactly that. Those who now want to second guess this decision because we cannot find stockpiles of ready to go WMD, fail to recognize the high likilihood that the WMD most likely possessed by IRAQ could have been re-located in another country before the war, could have been destroyed just before the war, could have been destroyed during the war by either IRAQ troops(intentionally) or by US forces (unknowingly), or could still be present in IRAQ and just not yet found. The former administration believed that IRAQ had WMD, the UN believed it, then Senator Kerry believed it, the intelligence community believed it during the Clinton adm and in the Bush adm, the military leaders believed it (our troops were ready for it), Saddam believed it (per orders to his military commanders), the IRAQ troops believed it (they had chemical and biological protective suits in their possession), the IRAQ military had all the precursers for biological and chemical weapons and the mobile labs to make them, and IRAQ had the capability, through missiles exceeding UN limitations they agreed to, to deliver chemical and biological agents in atttacks of its neighbors in the region and US interests.
Heck, even the anti-war protesters believed it since part of their reasons for not going to war was that Saddam might use WMD ---how could he use them if he did not have them?
So, in summary, Kerry's campaign, taking the cue from Dean(YEEEEEHHAAAAAA), is essentially a one issue campaign ----the war. The economy is doing fine by most measures (including the democrats former measure --the almighty stock market). Even the usual democratic leaning media giants cannot spin this economy as dismal like they did during the BUSH v CLINTON election year. Who do you trust with respect to national security? Bush, Chaney, Powell, Rice, Ashcroft, or anti-war/UN Kerry, his future VP candidate from the south---Edwards (little experience), Clark(goofball ---just months before announcing his campaign, he was praising Bush and his adm --go figure), and Larry , Curly, and Mo (just remember the last Mayberry adm team ---- Aunt Bea as Secretary of State, Goober as VP, and Thelma Lou as Atty Gen.). Hands down, I prefer the Bush team. To each his own.
Heck, even the anti-war protesters believed it since part of their reasons for not going to war was that Saddam might use WMD ---how could he use them if he did not have them?
So, in summary, Kerry's campaign, taking the cue from Dean(YEEEEEHHAAAAAA), is essentially a one issue campaign ----the war. The economy is doing fine by most measures (including the democrats former measure --the almighty stock market). Even the usual democratic leaning media giants cannot spin this economy as dismal like they did during the BUSH v CLINTON election year. Who do you trust with respect to national security? Bush, Chaney, Powell, Rice, Ashcroft, or anti-war/UN Kerry, his future VP candidate from the south---Edwards (little experience), Clark(goofball ---just months before announcing his campaign, he was praising Bush and his adm --go figure), and Larry , Curly, and Mo (just remember the last Mayberry adm team ---- Aunt Bea as Secretary of State, Goober as VP, and Thelma Lou as Atty Gen.). Hands down, I prefer the Bush team. To each his own.
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I just like seeing us get the bad guys ----you know ---the ones that hate our guts and want to kill us -----the fanatics that teach hatred for non-Muslims and indoctrinate their young with religious doctrine supporting the elimination of non-Muslims.
Saddam, his regime, and his sons were monsters. Saddam attacked its neighbor in 1991 without provocation and threatened others in the Middle East. We kicked his sorry booty and he unconditionally surrendered. Terms and conditions were placed on IRAQ before UN sanctions would be lifted. IRAQ was never in compliance with what it agreed to at the end the '91 war. Osama and his followers are religious fanatics who attacked our country without provocation. The Tailban supported, aided and protected Osama and his followers. They are all bad guys. They all deserve their fate. It is that simple. With the Bush doctrine in place, we have had no further attacks of the US on our soil. Libya has decided to cooperate. Iran, North Korea, Syria, and others have toned down their rhetoric, and will soon join Libya with cooperation. The potential for peace in the Middle East through established democracies is worth a try, starting with IRAQ. Nothing else has worked. New threats, such as terrorism, fanatics with WMD, etc., call for new strategies. Bush's pre-emptive strategy and foreign policy meets with my approval and apparently many others.
The bill passed giving the president the green light on war with IRAQ, did not have all of the confusing conditions cited by Kerry. You, nor anyone else, has evidence that Bush "lied" about anything. The only folks buying this crap are the ones who would not vote for Bush anyway. Kerry has been sitting on the fence so long on this war issue, waiting like a vulture to see if anything goes wrong to criticise, that he has no kahooonaas --they wore off. But, when he selects Hillary as his running mate, she will provide the kahoonaas.
I know I voted for war, but I didn't really mean it. I really meant that if we had 100% infallible evidence of the full extent of Saddam's WMD capabilities, the full approval of all members of the UN, the blessing of the Pope, the approval of the French, and the go-ahead from Hollywood, only then could we go to war, but only as part of an international police force under the direction of the UN ------ Senator Kerry.

Saddam, his regime, and his sons were monsters. Saddam attacked its neighbor in 1991 without provocation and threatened others in the Middle East. We kicked his sorry booty and he unconditionally surrendered. Terms and conditions were placed on IRAQ before UN sanctions would be lifted. IRAQ was never in compliance with what it agreed to at the end the '91 war. Osama and his followers are religious fanatics who attacked our country without provocation. The Tailban supported, aided and protected Osama and his followers. They are all bad guys. They all deserve their fate. It is that simple. With the Bush doctrine in place, we have had no further attacks of the US on our soil. Libya has decided to cooperate. Iran, North Korea, Syria, and others have toned down their rhetoric, and will soon join Libya with cooperation. The potential for peace in the Middle East through established democracies is worth a try, starting with IRAQ. Nothing else has worked. New threats, such as terrorism, fanatics with WMD, etc., call for new strategies. Bush's pre-emptive strategy and foreign policy meets with my approval and apparently many others.
The bill passed giving the president the green light on war with IRAQ, did not have all of the confusing conditions cited by Kerry. You, nor anyone else, has evidence that Bush "lied" about anything. The only folks buying this crap are the ones who would not vote for Bush anyway. Kerry has been sitting on the fence so long on this war issue, waiting like a vulture to see if anything goes wrong to criticise, that he has no kahooonaas --they wore off. But, when he selects Hillary as his running mate, she will provide the kahoonaas.


I know I voted for war, but I didn't really mean it. I really meant that if we had 100% infallible evidence of the full extent of Saddam's WMD capabilities, the full approval of all members of the UN, the blessing of the Pope, the approval of the French, and the go-ahead from Hollywood, only then could we go to war, but only as part of an international police force under the direction of the UN ------ Senator Kerry.


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Bush probably will carry Ms. because the blacks won't vote and the stupid white men will.
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Coming from the state who elected Gephart to the Senate, who you calling stupid?, stupid.
MS will proudly cast its electoral votes for Bush on election day in November, joining the other numerous states on the winning team.
One other point, if you don't vote, then who is the stupid one? 



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glad to see somebody finally make mention of the '91 cease fire agreements in which we had full authority to do exactly what we did should Saddam do exactly what he did. We didn't fight a war with the British to listen to the rest of the world. Bush had authorization from Congress to do what he did, anybody that claims they were lied to that many times about that many things and still believed what they were told and voted for it shouldn't be in political office anyway ( Kerry ) .
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Get your head out of the sand boys-the money boys will destroy the environment for a nickel. Bush is one of the money boys-bottom line.
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I bet those thousands (millions?) we found in mass graves had wished GB Sr. would have come on into Iraq during the Gulf War. Still pisses me off that we didn't. I wonder how many people our troops saved from a bullet in the head by stoping Sadams reign?
He made it known he had WMDs (used them once). He aidded terrorists and now Osama's bunch is in Iraq fighting our troops insted of here at home blowing up civilians.
When a bully talks trash you better punch him in the mouth or all the other bullies in the school yard will know you are an easy mark. I don't care if there were any WMDs or not. Through his words and actions he TOLD us he had WMDs and Bush, by his actions told Sadam that America is not an easy mark anymore. He let these other countrys know that he means what he says and he will stand up to evil. Lets face it, in that hell hole that is the Middle East the winner of a war is defined by who is alive when it's over. Bush understands that you cant just set down at the UN for the 15th time and discuss the situation over tea.
I feel alot safer sending my kids to school with Bush at the wheel. I shuder to think of what Kerry's (I don't care what he says- LOOK AT HIS VOTING RECORD) response to 911 would have been if he were in Bush's shoes.
Stop the pussification of America. Be men.. folow your principals not public polling data. We are not voting for class favorite here.
Wow was that a rant or what!
He made it known he had WMDs (used them once). He aidded terrorists and now Osama's bunch is in Iraq fighting our troops insted of here at home blowing up civilians.
When a bully talks trash you better punch him in the mouth or all the other bullies in the school yard will know you are an easy mark. I don't care if there were any WMDs or not. Through his words and actions he TOLD us he had WMDs and Bush, by his actions told Sadam that America is not an easy mark anymore. He let these other countrys know that he means what he says and he will stand up to evil. Lets face it, in that hell hole that is the Middle East the winner of a war is defined by who is alive when it's over. Bush understands that you cant just set down at the UN for the 15th time and discuss the situation over tea.
I feel alot safer sending my kids to school with Bush at the wheel. I shuder to think of what Kerry's (I don't care what he says- LOOK AT HIS VOTING RECORD) response to 911 would have been if he were in Bush's shoes.
Stop the pussification of America. Be men.. folow your principals not public polling data. We are not voting for class favorite here.
Wow was that a rant or what!
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Benny...................really man, I'd expect and intelligent-insightful gentlemen such as yourself to put out a more informed position than"man..give me any democratic..we just gotta get Bush".
Frankly, the Democrats are in complete disarray, lost focus, confused about what America wants and needs, and missed the boat on the only realistic candidate in the race (Lieberman). The fella is rational, stands by his convictions and takes a centrist position...however, being Jewish..tied at one time to Gore...and having that strange speech thing must of hurt him.
Kerry aint nothing to write home about; and I sure would like to know how the Vietnam Vets feel about him? just the fact that he fraternized with Jane Fonda upon his return from the conflict makes me question his values and ability to make good decisions.
Frankly, the Democrats are in complete disarray, lost focus, confused about what America wants and needs, and missed the boat on the only realistic candidate in the race (Lieberman). The fella is rational, stands by his convictions and takes a centrist position...however, being Jewish..tied at one time to Gore...and having that strange speech thing must of hurt him.
Kerry aint nothing to write home about; and I sure would like to know how the Vietnam Vets feel about him? just the fact that he fraternized with Jane Fonda upon his return from the conflict makes me question his values and ability to make good decisions.
Don't go getting all torqued up, the reference about Fonda has nothing to do with party affilliation. Whether you agree or disagree with the reason we were in s.e. asia has no bearing on party politics; just look at what party presided over the bulk of the years we were engaged there.
My point about Fonda was that the man showed a lack of good judgement; her demonstration was not the appropriate way to convey an anti war position, and By God.. a decorated Vet ought to understand that!
For the record: I also believe that our involvement there should have never occurred.
You need to be careful in your attacks on the G.O.P.....because you don't always have the firmest footing for your arguements...and I will gladly give you a little push
just to bring balance...no malice intended.
My point about Fonda was that the man showed a lack of good judgement; her demonstration was not the appropriate way to convey an anti war position, and By God.. a decorated Vet ought to understand that!
For the record: I also believe that our involvement there should have never occurred.
You need to be careful in your attacks on the G.O.P.....because you don't always have the firmest footing for your arguements...and I will gladly give you a little push

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hanoi jane went to nam, met with their military leaders, sat on their guns and acted if it were something wonderful.
at the same time they held many u.s. prisoners of war that were being beaten, tortured and killed on a daily basis.
her behavior was treasonous and she should have been shot. she stepped way over the line. free speech is one thing but aid and comfort to the enemy, un freakin believeable. i can't for the life of me understand why she ever came back to America. if she hated america so much she should have just stayed. i guess doing laundry and working in a rice patty
or being some politicos love squeeze just didn't fit the bill for her.
i did notice that she failed to speak up for womens rights and all of the human rights atrocities that were being comitted over there at that time. she's kinda big in those issues now. must have slipped her attention.
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at the same time they held many u.s. prisoners of war that were being beaten, tortured and killed on a daily basis.
her behavior was treasonous and she should have been shot. she stepped way over the line. free speech is one thing but aid and comfort to the enemy, un freakin believeable. i can't for the life of me understand why she ever came back to America. if she hated america so much she should have just stayed. i guess doing laundry and working in a rice patty
or being some politicos love squeeze just didn't fit the bill for her.
i did notice that she failed to speak up for womens rights and all of the human rights atrocities that were being comitted over there at that time. she's kinda big in those issues now. must have slipped her attention.
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