Interesting Read for Jam Band Fans

[Chuckle12]

Agree to disagree sounds good to me...I happen to have a tie of sorts (fairly loose) to George, but that's not what forms my opinion of him. I like his style...I know a lot of fans who wish he would calm down and take the "lingering lead" role, but that probably ain't gonna happen. I just like their sound better with George playing, more of a southern rock sound and definitely more rock than roll. I've got a lot of friends that are with you, they liked Houser's style better. I think more people will be turned on to George the more he plays and I think the longer he plays the more he will find his niche. He (and they) will get better the more they are together and my guess will be that is one of the things they will work on during this hiatus.

Like you said, they do have two totally different styles. I think that was the point of getting him, to bring a new sound to the group, along with his Beanland ties. I still don't think they have peaked, though. I guess only time will tell.

I can't believe a thread about jam bands has made it this far on a duck hunting forum...

[Schemy]

I see this post about music and I gotta get in it. Now I am not a big fan of Phish, just never got into them, but I do respect their music. I am a huge Pat Green fan, and all the other Texas/Red Dirt music out there. There is a great band out of Atlanta goes by The Lost Trailers that is really awesome. They run in the same circles at PG, Ragweed, and that whole genre. I can see a lot of similarities between what these TX/RD artists are doing as compared to Widespread Panic. In fact Pat Green once gave an interview where he said that he wanted to become the Widespread Panic of country music. Just taking it to the fans and growing through the live shows and relentless touring. Let me know what y'all think.

[msbigdawg1234]

[/quote]Widespread Panic pretty muched peaked when Houser died. I'd be suprised if they stick around much longer.

Web you did not use the word survive but I think your quote could be taken as the same thing.I have very big ties with George grew up with him. Both GM and MH are /were great guitarist with two different styles. The Panic, IMHO, have a style now that is more Rock than Roll as Chuckle said in his last post. Not taking anything from the style that they had with MH. That was then and this is now. This Majority that you speak of where are you getting your info.

[Po Monkey Lounger]

Softcall, if you tended Bar there, I am pretty certain that my tips probably helped pay for the bulk of your tuition. The secret to always being able to get a fresh drink, even at a very crowded Bar? Start a tab and tip well so the bartender remembers you in the future ---pretty soon, you'll be able to get a new drink with just a nod of the head, tip of the cap, or other subtle jesture (like at an auction).

And yes, I agree, the Tribe Nunzio chick was one HOT HOOTCHIE!!! Reminded me of Barbara Eden from "I dream of Jeanie".

[SoftCall]

Po Monkey...you got that right! Your tips actually paid my bar tab at Forrester's and Irelands on a Beanland night

Web..

But they will never be what they once were.

again...simply a matter of opinion..mine says that they will be bigger. Personally, I would prefer smaller venues to a just sold out crowd...too much of this wanna be dead head miracle ticket crap from folks who don't take showers just so they can be dirty to pretend to be gypsies BS.

[Po Monkey Lounger]

Now, when at Ireland's, the most likely band playing was The World Famous Relaxations, featuring Howling Mad Perry ---a great party band. " I be strokin to the east, strokin to the west, strokin with the gal that I love the best........."

Ireland's was a weird mixture of college students, bikers, rednecks, hippies, tree huggers, hunters, etc ------its a wonder no one ever got a good country ass whoopin in that place ----- I guess the common bond of great music and cold beer kept everyone peaceful and happy ---that and the doobies.

"$#!+, hot damn, get off yo ass and jam"!!!

[Super Black Eagle]

Schemy - I hear what you are saying, but a post this long about jam bands lost the texas country crowd about 'three days' ago. as far as Pat Green wanting to be the Widespread Panic of country music, it was his booty that just jumped ship and took his show to Nashville. That whole wave on wave album is pretty much trash. IMO
Texas country is about more that just how many riffs you can get out of an E.which is what Nashville Country sounds like to me. I saw P.G. last weekend in memphis. He played a bunch of old stuff, and it was pretty good.
If you want to have a thread about the alternative country music, then start one; cause it ain't gonna live on this one. I have tried before.
Find a crowd in here that listens to John Prine, Jerry Jeff Walker, Reckless Kelly, Cory Morrow, Dub Miller, Max Stalling, Townes Van Zandt, Django Walker, Guy Clark, Sam Bush, Jack Ingram, Cross Canadian Ragweed, The Great Divide, Robert Earl Keen, Lyle Lovett, Walt Wilkins, etc. etc., and I will be surprised.

SBE


I like coconuts you can break them open
they smell like ladies,
lyin in the sun

And if I had my way
I'd give a coconut to everyone


SBE

[webbmaster]

This Majority that you speak of where are you getting your info.

Any Panic fan that didn't grow up with George.
You can also visit any WSP message board and get the same opinions.
Look, I don't know what else has to be said or done, and I respect your faith in George.....but WSP is Michael Houser.

mine says that they will be bigger

prefer smaller venues to a just sold out crowd

Well, they won't be getting bigger based on everything to date....so, it looks like you will have your wish.

Ticket sales don't lie. Neither do the recordings of shows. Both have been ver sub-par since Housers passing.

For the last time, I am not knocking the Panic. I repect what they have done up to this point, but I don't see them breaking any barriers with the direction they are headed now.

[msbigdawg1234]

I guess to each his own. Only time will tell. Either i'll tell you, I told you so ,or you'll tell me.

[Schemy]

Schemy - I hear what you are saying, but a post this long about jam bands lost the texas country crowd about 'three days' ago. as far as Pat Green wanting to be the Widespread Panic of country music, it was his booty that just jumped ship and took his show to Nashville. That whole wave on wave album is pretty much trash. IMO
Texas country is about more that just how many riffs you can get out of an E.which is what Nashville Country sounds like to me. I saw P.G. last weekend in memphis. He played a bunch of old stuff, and it was pretty good.
If you want to have a thread about the alternative country music, then start one; cause it ain't gonna live on this one. I have tried before.
Find a crowd in here that listens to John Prine, Jerry Jeff Walker, Reckless Kelly, Cory Morrow, Dub Miller, Max Stalling, Townes Van Zandt, Django Walker, Guy Clark, Sam Bush, Jack Ingram, Cross Canadian Ragweed, The Great Divide, Robert Earl Keen, Lyle Lovett, Walt Wilkins, etc. etc., and I will be surprised.

SBE


I like coconuts you can break them open
they smell like ladies,
lyin in the sun

And if I had my way
I'd give a coconut to everyone


SBE

Yeah I kinda figured it wouldn't last too long in this thread. I was just trying to point out the similiarities of the two styles.

As for Pat selling out and taking his act to nashville, nothing could be further from the truth. Wave on Wave was produced out of the New York offices. Also with touring almost exclusively in Texas he has bucked the tradition set up by NashVegas and stayed true to the fans that got him to where he is. Lastly, Wave On Wave is a step in the right direction. It is not my favorite album by any means, but I think it shows the PG is willing to try and grow as an artist. There are only so many songs about texas one man has in him. The fact that he did take a little hickey and tried to get more fans by doing something a little mainstream shows how he wants this genre to grow. These are just my opinions take them for what they are worth.

[Super Black Eagle]

Schemy - call it what you wanna. He wanted to get on mainstream radio, so he recorded a song and made an album that would make it. I don't like it!!

I still think his best stuff was written by Walt Wilkins.
imo

Right now on the radio (wevl 89.9 out of memphis) I am listening to Dwight Yokum sing John Prine's Paradise.

Daddy won't you take me back to Mullenburg County
Down by the Gruene River where paradise lay

[crow]

SBE, Sr., now you talkin' my language!

Please don't bury me down in that cold, cold ground.
I'd rather have them cut me up and pass me all around.
Throw my brain to the hurricane, and the blind can have my eyes.
Give the deaf both of my ears if they don't mind the size.

Ah, 1974, John Prine, Dan Fogelberg, wine coolers, and all my friends from MSU. Bring it back!

[Super Black Eagle]

hard to believe I am only 24, huh

I am a HUGE John Prine fan,

Well, I sat down in my closet with all my overalls
Tryin' to get away
From all the ears inside my walls
I dreamed the police heard
Everything I thought... what then?
Well I went to court
And the judge's name was Hoffman

or another personal favorite,

On my very first job I said thank you and please
They made me scrub a parking lot down on my knees
Then I got fired for being scared of bees
And they only give me fifty cents an hour.

I could do this all day,

There's a hole in daddy's arm where all the money goes,
Jesus Christ died for nothin' I suppose.
Little pitchers have big ears,
Don't stop to count the years,
Sweet songs never last too long on broken radios

SBE

[Don Miller]

SBE, I'm a John Prine fan myself. I met him at Jack's Resort on the White River in northern Arkansas about 18 years ago. At the time, I had no idea who he was. He happen to be good friends with the owner, Jack Hinkle and I happen to be dating Jack's niece at the time. I vividly remember him playing the song "Grandpa Was A Carpenter", among others. It was pretty cool. Oh, I forgot, he sang "Dear Abby" also.

[SoftCall]

Web -

Any Panic fan that didn't grow up with George.

You have got to be kidding me. I hunt with 6 guys from Texas and they all like the new sound. They didn't know GM from Adam. They saw them at the back yard in Austin and loved it. These guys are pretty hard core fans too. I don't know how you can sit there and claim that everyone who didn't grow up with GM has a negative opinion of the band now. You should know better than to take feedback on a panic fan forum as the 100% gospel...sheesh - just look at the variance in opinion on this one. That's like saying all of the members on this board are opposed to shooting snakes.

MH was WSP? No way - JB is and always will be. Matter of personal opinion.