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Postby msbigdawg1234 » Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:04 pm

Scooter this is Rick Daughtry. Whats up how ya been where ya at these days?
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Postby Chuckle12 » Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:07 pm

webbmaster wrote:Widespread Panic pretty muched peaked when Houser died. I'd be suprised if they stick around much longer.


Peaked when Houser died...have you been to a Panic show lately??? They have more energy now than they ever did before. No offense to Houser, I thought the guy a great guitarist, but he was just as the song said "an honest tune with a lingering lead". JB's riff lead more songs than Houser's lead could. He complemented the band's style, but he couldn't lead the band in a jam, he followed the rhythm laid down by Schools, Nance and Domingo . George takes that band all over the sound scale with his licks, something Houser rarely ever did. The only time you saw Houser shine was when there was another lead guitar on stage, he showed he was the man for about one song and then went back to his lingering ways. As far as I can tell, Panic has never been more full of energy than this past tour.

Mike Gordon, Victor Wooten and Oteil are all great bass players, but I would say Schools has more style than any of those 3 (Oteil may give him a good run for his money). I never put him in god status, but he is the best bass guitarist in his prime today. He plays the bass like a lead...not many bassists can do that and get away with it.
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Postby msbigdawg1234 » Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:23 pm

I am with ya all the way Chuckle
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Postby Chuckle12 » Tue Jun 22, 2004 2:04 pm

I'm no die hard Panic fan, but I used to be. I personally think Phish has always put on a better show and will always take Warren Haynes guitar over most anybody.

By the way webbmaster, we left out one of the most innovative bass guitarists of his time off the list: Les Claypool. That guy will give Schools, or anybody else, a run for their money any day of the week.
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Postby webbmaster » Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:12 pm

Chuckle12 wrote:
webbmaster wrote:Widespread Panic pretty muched peaked when Houser died. I'd be suprised if they stick around much longer.


Peaked when Houser died...have you been to a Panic show lately??? They have more energy now than they ever did before. No offense to Houser, I thought the guy a great guitarist, but he was just as the song said "an honest tune with a lingering lead". JB's riff lead more songs than Houser's lead could. He complemented the band's style, but he couldn't lead the band in a jam, he followed the rhythm laid down by Schools, Nance and Domingo . George takes that band all over the sound scale with his licks, something Houser rarely ever did. The only time you saw Houser shine was when there was another lead guitar on stage, he showed he was the man for about one song and then went back to his lingering ways. As far as I can tell, Panic has never been more full of energy than this past tour.

Mike Gordon, Victor Wooten and Oteil are all great bass players, but I would say Schools has more style than any of those 3 (Oteil may give him a good run for his money). I never put him in god status, but he is the best bass guitarist in his prime today. He plays the bass like a lead...not many bassists can do that and get away with it.

I guess we'll have to agreee to disagree.
Its my impression that you have some connection with Mconnell--perhaps because he is from MS, but....

Go "linger" around any WSP message forum or talk to their die-hard fans and its painfully obvious that McConnell is not the right man for the job. Michael Houser WAS Panic. That was his nickname. His sound defined them. I will always associate WSP with Houser. George has had a tough job filling in his shoes, but WSP won't be the same. He doesn't fit the Panic sound.

George said they are having a great time and taking this year off to due some work.

All I know is George better practice while they are off, cuz 90% of the stuff I've heard from him over the past year is poop. And I'll challenge you to find more than a handful of folks who disagree with me.[
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Postby msbigdawg1234 » Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:58 pm

Hey Web to each his own but i can asure you there are more than a handfull to people that like the George style. Like i said before Houser was Houser and George is George. But i still don't think they have hit there peak. I have been to alot of shows all the way back when they played in Jackson Ms at WC Don's thur Houser and George. Yes I am partial to George, he is abuddy of mine, as is JOJO. Know matter what the "die hards" say i don't see no peaking.
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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:56 pm

Softcall, your post about Syd& Harrys in Oxford got me to thinking about all the great music I enjoyed at that place while in college. Regulars back then included Beanland, The Tangents, Tribe Nunzio, "Luv Night w/Charlie B. Luv", Mojo Buford, and The Sausage and Biscuit Boys. Special appearances included Tinsley Ellis, Ansun Funderburgh and the Rockets, Will Smokey Logg, The Kinsey Report, Little Charlie and the Nightcats, The Bluebirds, and many others. I've partied and boogied my ass off at that place many a night, with that old wood floor swaying to the rythmic beat. Spent a LOT of money on whiskey and wimmens in that joint ----I should have been a part owner. :lol: A lot of good memories. 8)
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Postby Money » Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:38 pm

I think I seen them Sausage and Biscuit Boys over at Schlater the other day !


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Postby SoftCall » Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:27 pm

All I know is George better practice while they are off, cuz 90% of the stuff I've heard from him over the past year is poop.


webbmaster - I consider myself a music buff of sorts and I have seen a gazillion live shows from the Grateful Dead to the Jerry band..the ABB, the Panic and the list goes on. My favorite jam bands all played on the relix label until I heard WSP. I have been tapped in with the panic since 1987 and consider myself a die hard fan to this day. I was also a die hard Beanland fan from day one and I must tell you that there aint no comparison between George and Mikey H. Two totally different styles. George is by far the best man to fill those shoes. He considers it an honor to fill the void and he fits in with the panic family...because that's what they are.

disagree with me about ducks, limits, mojo's refuges, public WMA's and launch rules all you want but when you knock George like that it tells me that you don't know nothin' about rock n roll. :lol: Just kidding,...and yep.. alot of folks out here personally know George so your opinions are pretty strong on these ears.

Anyway, folks said the same thing about Vince W when Brent Midland died...The Grateful Dead would never be the same :roll: . I was at VW's first show in Richfield OH and most folks were blown away after he flat nailed a Birdsong. There were a few that didn't get over the loss of BM, but they moved on and missed another 5 years of great shows.

to each his own...

Chuckle12 - Les Claypool is bad to the bone...kind of wierd but he can git it man! Oysterhead is pretty damn good IMO.
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Postby SoftCall » Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:30 pm

Po Monkey Lounger - I remember almost all of those acts and I can say that there is a good chance that I poured at least 100 of those toddys for you. BTW - I still think that the Tribe Nunzio chick was hot :lol:
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Postby msbigdawg1234 » Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:07 am

Softcall I was at that first VW GD show. It was unreal how he filled the gap of Brent.As I to have been to a gazillion shows I know what you mean. Are ya going to make any of the Dead shows this summer on the Wave that Flag Tour. As for maritime law you must have been on the boat rides. If so we probally do know each other. I did not sell many tickets to those rides unless I knew the person. Those were kinda private rides ,ya know what I mean.
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Postby FnW man » Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:42 am

MS BD1234, Last I saw you (the reunion, I think) you were living in Florida and married. You back in town?? Check your PM. I'll give you my # here at work. Good to hear from you.
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Postby webbmaster » Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:51 am

webbmaster - I consider myself a music buff of sorts and I have seen a gazillion live shows from the Grateful Dead to the Jerry band..the ABB, the Panic and the list goes on. .......... I have been tapped in with the panic since 1987 and consider myself a die hard fan to this day.

Well, I could pull out my resume too if you'd like, but thats not the point. But as well travelled as you say you are, a majoirty of Panic fans are not completely happy with Georges playing. That is a fact.

No offense, but just because you have been seeing panic since 87 and know George doesn't validate any opinions that they haven't even "peaked" yet.

.....I must tell you that there aint no comparison between George and Mikey H. Two totally different styles. George is by far the best man to fill those shoes. He considers it an honor to fill the void and he fits in with the panic family...because that's what they are.

Uh, they do have different styles. Thats the point. The band is going in a different direction now. He is part of the "family," thats how he got the job. He may consider it an honor, but he needs to tighten up his playing.

disagree with me about ducks, limits, mojo's refuges, public WMA's and launch rules all you want but when you knock George like that it tells me that you don't know nothin' about rock n roll. :lol: Just kidding,...and yep.. alot of folks out here personally know George so your opinions are pretty strong on these ears.
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You have answered my assumption. George is your "home boy." I wish him the best and I hope this year off will help him improve the big shoes he has to fill.
But, they weren't exactly peaking this past year when they were playing. UNO was barely at half capacity last October.....I would hardly call that peaking.[/quote]
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Postby SoftCall » Wed Jun 23, 2004 1:50 pm

webbmaster - to each his own...WSP will survive and thrive whether you like the new direction and sound or not. I do think that the use of "majority" in your assessment of the situation isn't grounded. I have heard the opposite from a lot of people...never anything negative other than folks wish MH was still with us on this earth. But as they say...opinions are opinions.
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Postby webbmaster » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:39 pm

SoftCall wrote:webbmaster - to each his own...WSP will survive and thrive whether you like the new direction and sound or not. I do think that the use of "majority" in your assessment of the situation isn't grounded. I have heard the opposite from a lot of people...never anything negative other than folks wish MH was still with us on this earth. But as they say...opinions are opinions.


I never said they wouldn't survive. But they will never be what they once were. And for that matter, they will never be as big as Phish.

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