Pass Taylor arrested

[the tree]

Much better read when listening to Willie Nelson/Merle Haggard sing Poncho and Lefty. IMO the duck lore stories of warden vs outlaw are as interesting as the thread about the scatters. Think this case looks weak, but should make hunters consider the cost of breaking the law. Hard to believe this is a federal land grab. Like Bill Clinton, dont know Pass, might not agree with his beliefs, but sure would enjoy sippin spirits with both beside a fire at the camp and hearing their stories.

Lets raise our glass to whistling wings, sec football and the southern way of life!

[SkippyJ]

Word.

Dammit Sam....you beat me to it!!!

Chip

[SHANE704]

prayers sent for pass.

it's just a dog-goned, golly gee willeckers pflucking shame a man of his character has the hammer dropped on his sorry azzz

and, what's even worse, worse by light years i say, aye, tippy tippy day-day, is that anyone, ANYONE YOU HEAR ME henceforth and hithertofore, on this board would be out, gnash teefs, and pull the few hairs you have left on your head out over such an atrocity, A SIN IN THE EYES OF GOD, as some law enforcement officer using every means possible to dishonor, dis-integritize, and disenfranchise one who has obviously gone to such limits, such heights, such personal strife as to uphold, holdfast and lead by example to us ALL in the name of CONSERVATION, FAIR CHASE, and just outright human decency.

i mean, you guys act like the old basterdous pissant used his advantage to the pull in dolla bills........dolla dolla bills, when the rest of you poor saps were freezing your azzes off at a boat ramp surrounded by knumbskulls who prefer to ride around that dump in LOUD surface drives.

you know what? as an act of solidarity, an olive leaf if you will, i'd like to lead us in a word of prayer.

will the congregation bow their heads?

Dear Lord, we as an intelligent peoples are willing to do what's necessary to "right the direction of our society" and we CHOOSE Lord to have the law enforcement officers look the other way when the breaking of a law doesn't merit what our brains tells us is important......like Lord, let's just say - for examples sake - driving 80 in a 65. I mean, Lord, that's pretty mundane and really the LEO is showing his/her arrogance and stupidity by even stopping me. Remember, that's just an example Lord..........and, please remember Pass, Lord. He was such a "giving soul" Lord. I mean, giving that steel (or lead) to all those ducks all those times when i was sitting in some garhole.......Lord, it's Pass, Lord........Pass, he's old, real old.......can't you give him a, well, Pass? He probably doesn't know how to read Lord, he probably couldn't read all those rules and regs regarding Duck season...........I mean, 6, is a lot of numbers to count too.........there's like 5 before that, unless you count "0" which is what most of these girls on this dump tend to bring home, whether at a bar or hunting, though i digress.

P.s.....Lord, you know that whole scenario I talked about regarding someone driving 80 in a 65? Well, I'd like to pray for every board member here with a child (myself included) that if that 80 MPH mundane violator of the law is carrying my child (or anyone else's for that matter) away to use every orifice on their little bodies as a target................................well, a little headsup would be nice. that way, it keeps me (or anyone else that thinks "certain laws need to be looked past in order to get society on track" keeps our children whole.

**BUT BUT BUT, not all the time Lord........Just when I need the law and LEO's to work in my favor...............otherwise, i need us to focus on righting this society by disregarding it's laws. but BUT BUT, just a few laws Lord......you know, the stupid ones. Lord, you got a sheet with those laws - i know someone up there does Lord, don't hide it - and i'll just circle the ones to disregard and WHEN i want you to disregard them. thanks man, you're the bestest

thanks Lord, and thanks msducks for allowing me a place to hang with such a fine bunch of conservationists.

im considering using this as my signature on here

[teul2]

prayers sent for pass.

it's just a dog-goned, golly gee willeckers pflucking shame a man of his character has the hammer dropped on his sorry azzz

and, what's even worse, worse by light years i say, aye, tippy tippy day-day, is that anyone, ANYONE YOU HEAR ME henceforth and hithertofore, on this board would be out, gnash teefs, and pull the few hairs you have left on your head out over such an atrocity, A SIN IN THE EYES OF GOD, as some law enforcement officer using every means possible to dishonor, dis-integritize, and disenfranchise one who has obviously gone to such limits, such heights, such personal strife as to uphold, holdfast and lead by example to us ALL in the name of CONSERVATION, FAIR CHASE, and just outright human decency.

i mean, you guys act like the old basterdous pissant used his advantage to the pull in dolla bills........dolla dolla bills, when the rest of you poor saps were freezing your azzes off at a boat ramp surrounded by knumbskulls who prefer to ride around that dump in LOUD surface drives.

you know what? as an act of solidarity, an olive leaf if you will, i'd like to lead us in a word of prayer.

will the congregation bow their heads?

Dear Lord, we as an intelligent peoples are willing to do what's necessary to "right the direction of our society" and we CHOOSE Lord to have the law enforcement officers look the other way when the breaking of a law doesn't merit what our brains tells us is important......like Lord, let's just say - for examples sake - driving 80 in a 65. I mean, Lord, that's pretty mundane and really the LEO is showing his/her arrogance and stupidity by even stopping me. Remember, that's just an example Lord..........and, please remember Pass, Lord. He was such a "giving soul" Lord. I mean, giving that steel (or lead) to all those ducks all those times when i was sitting in some garhole.......Lord, it's Pass, Lord........Pass, he's old, real old.......can't you give him a, well, Pass? He probably doesn't know how to read Lord, he probably couldn't read all those rules and regs regarding Duck season...........I mean, 6, is a lot of numbers to count too.........there's like 5 before that, unless you count "0" which is what most of these girls on this dump tend to bring home, whether at a bar or hunting, though i digress.

P.s.....Lord, you know that whole scenario I talked about regarding someone driving 80 in a 65? Well, I'd like to pray for every board member here with a child (myself included) that if that 80 MPH mundane violator of the law is carrying my child (or anyone else's for that matter) away to use every orifice on their little bodies as a target................................well, a little headsup would be nice. that way, it keeps me (or anyone else that thinks "certain laws need to be looked past in order to get society on track" keeps our children whole.

**BUT BUT BUT, not all the time Lord........Just when I need the law and LEO's to work in my favor...............otherwise, i need us to focus on righting this society by disregarding it's laws. but BUT BUT, just a few laws Lord......you know, the stupid ones. Lord, you got a sheet with those laws - i know someone up there does Lord, don't hide it - and i'll just circle the ones to disregard and WHEN i want you to disregard them. thanks man, you're the bestest

thanks Lord, and thanks msducks for allowing me a place to hang with such a fine bunch of conservationists.

im considering using this as my signature on here

Won't fit, already tried.

[deltadukman]

prayers sent for pass.

it's just a dog-goned, golly gee willeckers pflucking shame a man of his character has the hammer dropped on his sorry azzz

and, what's even worse, worse by light years i say, aye, tippy tippy day-day, is that anyone, ANYONE YOU HEAR ME henceforth and hithertofore, on this board would be out, gnash teefs, and pull the few hairs you have left on your head out over such an atrocity, A SIN IN THE EYES OF GOD, as some law enforcement officer using every means possible to dishonor, dis-integritize, and disenfranchise one who has obviously gone to such limits, such heights, such personal strife as to uphold, holdfast and lead by example to us ALL in the name of CONSERVATION, FAIR CHASE, and just outright human decency.

i mean, you guys act like the old basterdous pissant used his advantage to the pull in dolla bills........dolla dolla bills, when the rest of you poor saps were freezing your azzes off at a boat ramp surrounded by knumbskulls who prefer to ride around that dump in LOUD surface drives.

you know what? as an act of solidarity, an olive leaf if you will, i'd like to lead us in a word of prayer.

will the congregation bow their heads?

Dear Lord, we as an intelligent peoples are willing to do what's necessary to "right the direction of our society" and we CHOOSE Lord to have the law enforcement officers look the other way when the breaking of a law doesn't merit what our brains tells us is important......like Lord, let's just say - for examples sake - driving 80 in a 65. I mean, Lord, that's pretty mundane and really the LEO is showing his/her arrogance and stupidity by even stopping me. Remember, that's just an example Lord..........and, please remember Pass, Lord. He was such a "giving soul" Lord. I mean, giving that steel (or lead) to all those ducks all those times when i was sitting in some garhole.......Lord, it's Pass, Lord........Pass, he's old, real old.......can't you give him a, well, Pass? He probably doesn't know how to read Lord, he probably couldn't read all those rules and regs regarding Duck season...........I mean, 6, is a lot of numbers to count too.........there's like 5 before that, unless you count "0" which is what most of these girls on this dump tend to bring home, whether at a bar or hunting, though i digress.

P.s.....Lord, you know that whole scenario I talked about regarding someone driving 80 in a 65? Well, I'd like to pray for every board member here with a child (myself included) that if that 80 MPH mundane violator of the law is carrying my child (or anyone else's for that matter) away to use every orifice on their little bodies as a target................................well, a little headsup would be nice. that way, it keeps me (or anyone else that thinks "certain laws need to be looked past in order to get society on track" keeps our children whole.

**BUT BUT BUT, not all the time Lord........Just when I need the law and LEO's to work in my favor...............otherwise, i need us to focus on righting this society by disregarding it's laws. but BUT BUT, just a few laws Lord......you know, the stupid ones. Lord, you got a sheet with those laws - i know someone up there does Lord, don't hide it - and i'll just circle the ones to disregard and WHEN i want you to disregard them. thanks man, you're the bestest

thanks Lord, and thanks msducks for allowing me a place to hang with such a fine bunch of conservationists.

im considering using this as my signature on here

Won't fit, already tried.

You would wouldnt you....got some of gators, well gator, on your nose???

[deltadukman]

This is a discussion forum, so lets discuss. Im not trying to play devils advocate, what this hand did was wrong, and the officers that got him had a legit reason to bust him and I'm glad they got him. What gets me, is we talk about building a case....catching the guy in the act multiple times and not just a one time trip to make sure the charges stick and he doesnt get off. What happens when an officer rolls up on me and I have one(1) dove load shotshell in my vest by mistake(yes I use the same veast for doves and ducks) and writes me a big ticket for posession of lead shot, or get checked on the drive out and have a box of lead squirrel shot or lead shot in my pickup. Same but different? Will I have a good change of getting off knowing full well I wasnt walking out with a strap full of lead shot up ducks? Look, I am all for the wildlife and its protection, but anyone who tries to correlate the taking of more ducks than they should or guiding in a federal refuge to the kidnapping and raping of a child(per a previously thread that has been edited) needs to be reminded of priorities and keep them in check.

**disclaimer, I am not taking up for the guy or bashing law enforcement in any way**

[DUCKAHOLIC]

any body who uses " tippy tippy day-day" in a post is a clown lovin homo..............

that is all

[Deltamud77]

Most of you guys probably know, but I say it anyway, relative to federal law enforcement and prosecution...they are not out there trying to police the small stuff and there has been a shift in US Attorney philosophy that they don't really want to deal with it unless they are pretty certain of a conviction. As such, they build a case over a longer period of time, accummulate more charges (to allow room to manuever in the prosecution process - shotgun approach to charges over rifle - precision approach).

All that being said and completely separate and aside from Pass Taylor, if you are not uncomfortable with the increased erosion of your own privacy and civil liberty rights in view of the Patriot Act and now other EOs signed by Obama (and Bush), then you are either ignorant, blind or stupid.

You realize that the federal government can read your emails without a warrant if they are older than 6 months? There is a bill before congress to try to reverse this ability that is expected to get shot down in flames. One can extrapolate out that the federal government could easily read your posts on this board and decide you are a threat, arrest you, take all of your stuff and (due to a relatively new EO by Obama) jail you indefinitely without a trial.

[hntrpat1]

Most of you guys probably know, but I say it anyway, relative to federal law enforcement and prosecution...they are not out there trying to police the small stuff and there has been a shift in US Attorney philosophy that they don't really want to deal with it unless they are pretty certain of a conviction. As such, they build a case over a longer period of time, accummulate more charges (to allow room to manuever in the prosecution process - shotgun approach to charges over rifle - precision approach).

All that being said and completely separate and aside from Pass Taylor, if you are not uncomfortable with the increased erosion of your own privacy and civil liberty rights in view of the Patriot Act and now other EOs signed by Obama (and Bush), then you are either ignorant, blind or stupid.

You realize that the federal government can read your emails without a warrant if they are older than 6 months? There is a bill before congress to try to reverse this ability that is expected to get shot down in flames. One can extrapolate out that the federal government could easily read your posts on this board and decide you are a threat, arrest you, take all of your stuff and (due to a relatively new EO by Obama) jail you indefinitely without a trial.

This is the truth. Ive called Federal GW's before because state GW would not do anything. They said they don't mess with the small stuff. But if you could prove a pattern of law breaking by big whigs they would then do something.

[mudsucker]

prayers sent for pass.

it's just a dog-goned, golly gee willeckers pflucking shame a man of his character has the hammer dropped on his sorry azzz

and, what's even worse, worse by light years i say, aye, tippy tippy day-day, is that anyone, ANYONE YOU HEAR ME henceforth and hithertofore, on this board would be out, gnash teefs, and pull the few hairs you have left on your head out over such an atrocity, A SIN IN THE EYES OF GOD, as some law enforcement officer using every means possible to dishonor, dis-integritize, and disenfranchise one who has obviously gone to such limits, such heights, such personal strife as to uphold, holdfast and lead by example to us ALL in the name of CONSERVATION, FAIR CHASE, and just outright human decency.

i mean, you guys act like the old basterdous pissant used his advantage to the pull in dolla bills........dolla dolla bills, when the rest of you poor saps were freezing your azzes off at a boat ramp surrounded by knumbskulls who prefer to ride around that dump in LOUD surface drives.

you know what? as an act of solidarity, an olive leaf if you will, i'd like to lead us in a word of prayer.

will the congregation bow their heads?

Dear Lord, we as an intelligent peoples are willing to do what's necessary to "right the direction of our society" and we CHOOSE Lord to have the law enforcement officers look the other way when the breaking of a law doesn't merit what our brains tells us is important......like Lord, let's just say - for examples sake - driving 80 in a 65. I mean, Lord, that's pretty mundane and really the LEO is showing his/her arrogance and stupidity by even stopping me. Remember, that's just an example Lord..........and, please remember Pass, Lord. He was such a "giving soul" Lord. I mean, giving that steel (or lead) to all those ducks all those times when i was sitting in some garhole.......Lord, it's Pass, Lord........Pass, he's old, real old.......can't you give him a, well, Pass? He probably doesn't know how to read Lord, he probably couldn't read all those rules and regs regarding Duck season...........I mean, 6, is a lot of numbers to count too.........there's like 5 before that, unless you count "0" which is what most of these girls on this dump tend to bring home, whether at a bar or hunting, though i digress.

P.s.....Lord, you know that whole scenario I talked about regarding someone driving 80 in a 65? Well, I'd like to pray for every board member here with a child (myself included) that if that 80 MPH mundane violator of the law is carrying my child (or anyone else's for that matter) away to use every orifice on their little bodies as a target................................well, a little headsup would be nice. that way, it keeps me (or anyone else that thinks "certain laws need to be looked past in order to get society on track" keeps our children whole.

**BUT BUT BUT, not all the time Lord........Just when I need the law and LEO's to work in my favor...............otherwise, i need us to focus on righting this society by disregarding it's laws. but BUT BUT, just a few laws Lord......you know, the stupid ones. Lord, you got a sheet with those laws - i know someone up there does Lord, don't hide it - and i'll just circle the ones to disregard and WHEN i want you to disregard them. thanks man, you're the bestest

thanks Lord, and thanks msducks for allowing me a place to hang with such a fine bunch of conservationists.

Pour me one, too.

That boy stays in the bottle.

[hillhunter]

If a federal agent shows up at your door and starts asking questions, they already know the answer.... they are just there to see if you'll lie about it.

I'm sure these guys knew what Pass was doing and just needed evidence to confirm it. If it's a federal refuge and he's hunting it then yea, he should be prosecuted. There was a reason these guys showed up to investigate, and probably not just some stuff said on a boat ramp or message board.

On another note, I'm not real sure that jail time fits this crime. Does he deserve to be punished? Sure. Does he need to share a cell with a rapist or murderer, I don't really think so. I think stout monetary fine, along with a ban from hunting all game in the US for an extended amount of time should do it, say five-ten years no hunting, ban his guiding for life. This guy from what I know isn't a violent criminal, just a guy that abused a sport and a system. Our jails are crowded enough but he also should not get off free.

[HardCashBrake]

I heard that Pass had a meeting with government yesterday and that most of the changes were thrown out. As I understand it he will pay a reasonable fine and be done. I could be wrong but that is what I heard.

[flyntwt]

could someone elaborate on his ridiculous name?

I feel this merits some attention.

[SWAG]

could someone elaborate on his ridiculous name?

I feel this merits some attention.

Pas was a fairly common name for that generation. I know at least one more person named Pas and pretty sure I have heard of others.

[HardCashBrake]

More info: The case is closed. Pass paid a small fine. The judge threw out almost all of the charges.
What really sucks is that our federal government spent many tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars pursuing a case that has no merrit.
The new normal.....the US Justice department will not enforce narcotic laws but they will try to put you under the jail for not filling out a pink hunt report card.