What do y'all think of Trump?

[YoBenny]

12 billion to ag is just the beginning covering up collateral damage for this so called war.
The supply lines will now demand they be compensated
So will every industry that gets hit by this stupid booty idiot in the white house.
You knock people out of work, and put them on welfare.
It takes YEARS to build contracts he obliterated in less than a month.
You cant fix that with welfare
Who pays them now? It sure as HELL isn't the top 10% who have all the damn MONEY......

China is probably watching this crap and laughing out loud.
"What is this idiot THINKING?"

[lilwhitelie]

Well let's raise minimum wage to $20 an hour, tax millionaires about 50 percent, increase the regulations on oil etc, and let's see how well the economy and job sector react. If you trust the democrats so much then it's a win because that is just a fraction of what they want if they gain control. Then you will for sure see other countries laughing hysterically like Assad did.

Listening to them preach on open borders etc just to get votes at our country's expense is sickening. But to see the woman win that's an open socialist and what her aspirations are is just crazy talk. You can't have free everything without someone paying for it.

[Wildfowler]

First off China holds right at 1.3 trillion of our debt, larger than any other country.

Would you like to see China continue this policy or or are you against this policy of China holding our treasuries?

[Wildfowler]

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And just so you know, you don't stop debt growth by giving the top 10% a trillion dollar tax break.
And you can stop blaming Obama for the debt problem too, his predecessor eclipsed obama and clintons predecessor eclipsed him as well. It's not democrats that rape the debt ceiling, it's the GOP. And they just did it AGAIN.

Since you trust snopes:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/national-debt-trump/

And before you suggest it was inherited from obama let’s not forget the fact that when obama first took office the national Dept was approximately $10,699,805,000,000.

When obama left office the national debt was approximately $19,947,304,555,212.49 almost doubled during the obama years.

Not once did the debt ever go down during a period of time that obama was at the helm. I find it unlikely that it would go down shortly after obama leaving office based on anything obama did to cause this.

The debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of bush 43. Half of what obama tacked on.

Percentage changes based on GDP can be a little confusing for some people. I think it easier to just look at the actual numbers.

[davidees]

“And the "our founding fathers" horsecrap - listen, if our founding fathers had a look at this crap today their views and ideas would be completely different than they were then, it is just stupid to imply that they had some century piercing revelations about how to conduct government.
The FIRST thing they would do is look at all the guns and proclaim THAT is NOT what we intended with the second amendment.”

Probably the most idiotic in a long list of idiot things you’ve said here. More people per capita owned guns then...and not just muskets, they had freaking CANNONS and what not. They would be aghast, not at the guns, but at the absolute depravity and moral decay that is the true cause of our “gun problem”.

[teul2]

Put farmers on welfare instead of free trade with a $12 Billion dollar hand out?

How's that trade war workin out for ya there Donnie?

Just put a brilliant businessman in charge and things will be lookin UP!

Even Fox News says it's economic suicide

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/ ... icide.html

If you think for a dang second that ALL farmers haven't been on the govt tit for decades already, you are blind.

[Wildfowler]

If you think for a dang second that ALL farmers haven't been on the govt tit for decades already, you are blind.

I would like to have a new topic discussion of the effects of the farm bill had in the economy.

I honestly don’t how it works, what it is intended to do, or if there are any “unintended” results of the farm bill.

Any takers?

[YoBenny]

And before you suggest it was inherited from obama let’s not forget the fact that when obama first took office the national Dept was approximately $10,699,805,000,000.

When obama left office the national debt was approximately $19,947,304,555,212.49 almost doubled during the obama years.

Not once did the debt ever go down during a period of time that obama was at the helm. I find it unlikely that it would go down shortly after obama leaving office based on anything obama did to cause this.

The debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of bush 43. Half of what obama tacked on.

Percentage changes based on GDP can be a little confusing for some people. I think it easier to just look at the actual numbers.

That whole paragraph is FULL of bullchit numbers, FULL of them.

And I agree about the farmers on the tit thats why when he offers them ANOTHER 12 billion that HE caused Im like holy fk where is THIS gonna end.

[Wildfowler]

That whole paragraph is FULL of bullchit numbers, FULL of them.

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Then Show me where I’m wrong. Just because you say so don’t make it so.

This is supposed to be at discussion. Don’t keep retreating away from the facts like you so readily do.

What was the national debt when Obama was sworn in for the first time, and what was the national debt when Trump was sworn in for the first time. ( yes I do know what the 2020 election outcome will be)

[YoBenny]

No I am not doing it anymore, you people dont give a CHIT about the validity of your sources and you just INVENT chit to support bullchit claims and Im just sick of it, you cant have a discussion with people who do that chit, you spend all your time disproving their bullchit because they have no intention of looking for valid data and it's just a waste of time. Fk this $#!+. Bullchit wins on time wasting qualities.

[Wildfowler]

No I am not doing it anymore, you people dont give a CHIT about the validity of your sources and you just INVENT chit to support bullchit claims and Im just sick of it, you cant have a discussion with people who do that chit, you spend all your time disproving their bullchit because they have no intention of looking for valid data and it's just a waste of time. Fk this $#!+. Bullchit wins on time wasting qualities.

Geez, some of the data I used came straight out of that Snopes link I included. I did not invent anything! I simply applied my own way of thinking to the data points. You obviously don’t have the ability to do that.

I Can’t believe you’re such a sore loser? What the hell man?

[YoBenny]

I didnt say $#!+ about the link to snopes because it was completely irrelevant to the topic which is another thing you do which is diversional. Im not a sore loser just real disappointed that you guys are so willing to distort the facts and data to suit you so your team wins. Its all about the team crap to yall and I dont have a damn team. America as a whole is my team. But thats not how yall talk, its brainwashed crap from the right, it is just as bad as religion and there is no point in discussing a damn thing with anyone who has that level of cognitive dissonance with politics.
It's the same thing as it is with the religious, a waste of time.
Not one shred of evidence to support what they say but that's their story and they are stickin to it.
Enough already. See you at the polls.

[davidees]

No I am not doing it anymore, you people dont give a CHIT about the validity of your sources and you just INVENT chit to support bullchit claims and Im just sick of it, you cant have a discussion with people who do that chit, you spend all your time disproving their bullchit because they have no intention of looking for valid data and it's just a waste of time. Fk this $#!+. Bullchit wins on time wasting qualities.

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[davidees]

The only “team” is the United States of America...when I enlisted, I swore an oath to defend THE CONSTITUTION against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC...now both parties suck, but the “progressives”, as well as those who think that constitution is outdated fit the bill for the “domestic” part. Once they’re totally and completely removed from power and any position of influence, we can address the GOP.

[YoBenny]

Well you fixin to get a wake up call buddy because that is not how politics works, if you dont want socialist running this country then you keep wages up where people arent suffering when they earn them. You get their kids some quality education. You keep their roads pothole free and their fire trucks on call 24/7.
Dont do that, guess what happens, here they come. And they commin buddy.
Congratulations on causing a political firestorm with greed ignorance and refusal to respect science.