Ole Miss v LSU

[Deltamud77]

This is going to sounds snobbish and it is not intended that way because it is undeniable that Ole Miss has played LSU close in the vast majority of games over the last decade - especially in Tiger Stadium. The only two legit blowouts LSU has over OM in that time were in Oxford.

That said, I honestly think both the LSU fans and team have not paid much attention to Ole Miss since 2003. It has been just another game, not a "big" game that draws attention like Alabama, Auburn or Florida. I really think that is why LSU lost last year in Oxford...they were not mentally ready and Ole Miss viewed it as THE game left on their schedule. Ole Miss wanted it more.

In 2012, Alabama came into Tiger Stadium as the #1 team in the land and was a heavy favorite. LSUs offense was struggling and the defense has taken a hit as well. LSU beat Alabama like a rented mule until the last drive of the game, when McCarron hit a running back on a screen play for the go ahead score. Alabama went on to win the national title. That Bama team was better than this Ole Miss team and that LSU team was probably not much better than this LSU team - if at all.

Point being, LSU will view this as a big game. The fans view this as a big game. There will be a pinnacle Tiger Stadium atmosphere prior to and in the beginning of the game. If LSU can somehow take an early lead, the crowd will get even more aggressive and loud and the team will feed off that as well.

I am not convinced that LSU has the experience and depth this year (nor QB) to beat what is probably the best team Ole Miss has ever put on a football field in its program history. That said, if OM beats LSU, it will certainly have done so in front of a hostile crowd on Saturday night in Death Valley and should hold its head high knowing that it beat a fully focused LSU program in the best environment it can bring to the table.

[davidees]

But everybody hates Umiss except Umiss.[/quote]

legit question(s)...why do state fans care? What's it matter if Ole Miss considers LSU a big rivalry game?[/quote]

I can't speak for State fans, but as for me, I don't. I'm just being honest, seems like everyone I know who's not a Umiss fan hates Umiss. In all fairness though, I know a lot of Arkie fans. They really seem to hate y'all.

[camlock]

But everybody hates Umiss except Umiss.

legit question(s)...why do state fans care? What's it matter if Ole Miss considers LSU a big rivalry game?[/quote]

I can't speak for State fans, but as for me, I don't. I'm just being honest, seems like everyone I know who's not a Umiss fan hates Umiss. In all fairness though, I know a lot of Arkie fans. They really seem to hate y'all.[/quote]

Houston Dale

[camlock]

This is going to sounds snobbish and it is not intended that way because it is undeniable that Ole Miss has played LSU close in the vast majority of games over the last decade - especially in Tiger Stadium. The only two legit blowouts LSU has over OM in that time were in Oxford.

That said, I honestly think both the LSU fans and team have not paid much attention to Ole Miss since 2003. It has been just another game, not a "big" game that draws attention like Alabama, Auburn or Florida. I really think that is why LSU lost last year in Oxford...they were not mentally ready and Ole Miss viewed it as THE game left on their schedule. Ole Miss wanted it more.

In 2012, Alabama came into Tiger Stadium as the #1 team in the land and was a heavy favorite. LSUs offense was struggling and the defense has taken a hit as well. LSU beat Alabama like a rented mule until the last drive of the game, when McCarron hit a running back on a screen play for the go ahead score. Alabama went on to win the national title. That Bama team was better than this Ole Miss team and that LSU team was probably not much better than this LSU team - if at all.

Point being, LSU will view this as a big game. The fans view this as a big game. There will be a pinnacle Tiger Stadium atmosphere prior to and in the beginning of the game. If LSU can somehow take an early lead, the crowd will get even more aggressive and loud and the team will feed off that as well.

I am not convinced that LSU has the experience and depth this year (nor QB) to beat what is probably the best team Ole Miss has ever put on a football field in its program history. That said, if OM beats LSU, it will certainly have done so in front of a hostile crowd on Saturday night in Death Valley and should hold its head high knowing that it beat a fully focused LSU program in the best environment it can bring to the table.

I've lived in BR since 2001. I lived near campus with cousin and his friends that were and are die hard alum before getting married. I've been and am still working with and close friends with more LSU fans than any other school. I've been to Tiger stadium for many games Ole Miss and others. While LSU fans have certainly recognized the significance of other games in last decade due to caliber of program and national relevance and has heated some more rivals annually, but the much of the fanbase plans for the Ole Miss game in a different way and they anticipate the rivalry and hate the Rebels year after year. It's not a coincidence that every year, regardless of the standing of the teams, the media relives the series history of the two ad nauseum.

Granted I'm sure the bandwagon LSU football crowd that has evolved since Saban arrived probably don't pay attention to Ole Miss anymore than whoever is biggest matchup that coming week...

[stang67]

Living in BR, I have honestly met just as many LSU fans that habitually confuse UM and MSU as fans that can tell them apart. UM should ROLL Saturday night in DV. Their defense should outscore LSU.

[eSJay]

I know UM & LSU are big rivalries, but who can tell me when & why it started? Was the Billy Cannon run the onset or was it before or after that?
My Dad was a big Ole Miss guy, but honestly, I remember him disliking bama & msu, but never remember anything about lsu. just curious when it all started.
I'm trying to think of another western div rivalry that is not cross state. arky & lsu come to mind, but are there more?

[Deltamud77]

Living in BR, I have honestly met just as many LSU fans that habitually confuse UM and MSU as fans that can tell them apart. UM should ROLL Saturday night in DV. Their defense should outscore LSU.

You are probably right. However, if the LSU QBs can throw for 150 yards (BIG if), then I think LSU will win the game. LSU needs to be able to throw enough to keep the defense a little honest. The rest will take care of itself.

[SWAG]

I think this will look more like the SEC games we are used to seeing...a very physical, knock-down-drag-out, defensive type of ballgame. A field goal may be very important. I could see an interception return for a TD being the winning points. Regardless I think whoever wins will do so by a TD or less. IMO I see "Bad Bo" showing back up with the frustration of not moving the ball well and LSU wins it.

[camlock]

I think this will look more like the SEC games we are used to seeing...a very physical, knock-down-drag-out, defensive type of ballgame. A field goal may be very important. I could see an interception return for a TD being the winning points. Regardless I think whoever wins will do so by a TD or less. IMO I see "Bad Bo" showing back up with the frustration of not moving the ball well and LSU wins it.

as the weeks go by, the Bad Bo media narrative is becoming more and more stupid...his numbers are as good as anyone in college football and half of his mistakes weren't even "Bad Bo" they were missed assignments and broken parts of plays the resulted in Bo being intercepted and him shouldering the load. He's had exponentially more good plays than bad...no reason to think he's gonna turn into something he is proving he is not against a middle of the conference defense...

Of course night games in the SEC on the road (especially baton Rouge) don't usually follow logic, so whatever, might implode...I sorta kinda expect the unexplained to occur...

[Jeff]

I think until this LSU team proves it can hang with a GOOD team advantage Ole Miss. LSU has looked better the last few weeks and in fact they ARE playing better, however they have yet to show up against an elite level team this year. I think you all are giving LSU too much credit right now. If a QB has to win the game there is NO way it can be done by LSU. I hope you all prove me wrong.

[SWAG]

I think this will look more like the SEC games we are used to seeing...a very physical, knock-down-drag-out, defensive type of ballgame. A field goal may be very important. I could see an interception return for a TD being the winning points. Regardless I think whoever wins will do so by a TD or less. IMO I see "Bad Bo" showing back up with the frustration of not moving the ball well and LSU wins it.

as the weeks go by, the Bad Bo media narrative is becoming more and more stupid...his numbers are as good as anyone in college football and half of his mistakes weren't even "Bad Bo" they were missed assignments and broken parts of plays the resulted in Bo being intercepted and him shouldering the load. He's had exponentially more good plays than bad...no reason to think he's gonna turn into something he is proving he is not against a middle of the conference defense...

Of course night games in the SEC on the road (especially baton Rouge) don't usually follow logic, so whatever, might implode...I sorta kinda expect the unexplained to occur...

I have seen enough of Bo Wallace to know he can flub it up own his very own. Whether you believe there is a Bad or Good Bo is your opinion, but there is merit in what people have said about him going back to last season. He has certainly looked better the last 3 weeks, but that is in large part to the defense and the UM coaching staff making him understand that they want him to just manage the game and not do anything stupid to lose it. He certainly has humbled himself some which he needed to do.

You can thank MSU for Bo's better play this season. After the Egg Bowl last year he has committed himself to being a better leader and a student of the game.

[camlock]

I think this will look more like the SEC games we are used to seeing...a very physical, knock-down-drag-out, defensive type of ballgame. A field goal may be very important. I could see an interception return for a TD being the winning points. Regardless I think whoever wins will do so by a TD or less. IMO I see "Bad Bo" showing back up with the frustration of not moving the ball well and LSU wins it.

as the weeks go by, the Bad Bo media narrative is becoming more and more stupid...his numbers are as good as anyone in college football and half of his mistakes weren't even "Bad Bo" they were missed assignments and broken parts of plays the resulted in Bo being intercepted and him shouldering the load. He's had exponentially more good plays than bad...no reason to think he's gonna turn into something he is proving he is not against a middle of the conference defense...

Of course night games in the SEC on the road (especially baton Rouge) don't usually follow logic, so whatever, might implode...I sorta kinda expect the unexplained to occur...

I have seen enough of Bo Wallace to know he can flub it up own his very own. Whether you believe there is a Bad or Good Bo is your opinion, but there is merit in what people have said about him going back to last season. He has certainly looked better the last 3 weeks, but that is in large part to the defense and the UM coaching staff making him understand that they want him to just manage the game and not do anything stupid to lose it. He certainly has humbled himself some which he needed to do.

You can thank MSU for Bo's better play this season. After the Egg Bowl last year he has committed himself to being a better leader and a student of the game.

well, I think every single player in college football has a bad side and a good side, nobody is perfect...I think Bo Wallace is unfairly judged at times on all this. He is held overly accountable for throwing interceptions and not given due credit in many circles when he plays well, in terms of public perception. Either way, I think the Bo Wallace of 2013 hasn't shown up in 2014, exception of the first half he played this year. He's been polar opposite since and winning. I find it hard to believe that if Alabama defense in that situation, or 106k in College Station couldn't bring out "bad Bo"...an average LSU defense isn't going to either...but as stated, this game and that venue at night (and the general idea the LSU can $#!+ through a swinging thimble) seems to create the unforeseen...sure gonna be a long fall Saturday night if it happens...

[hatchdaddy]

My opinion is Bad Bo comes out when pressure is applied and Im not picking on Bo because I think this can be said of alot of QB's. I believe this because look at the first part of the TN game and Ole Bo wasn't a stellar QB. When that line backer kept getting in his face the was 3 and out for the first quarter which led to blown assignments and throws that luckily weren't picked which could be different with a good D. Just my observation.

[NUTMEG]

LSU since 1939 has a record of 38-33-4 against the Rebels. Tight series. In the prior 7 seasons before the Billy Cannon run Ole Miss had won 6 of 7 against LSU. The rivalry started during this time and has continued due to the series being so close and so many crazy things happening.

Alabama is not considered a rival for Ole Miss because the Rebels have won like 5 games in the last 100 against the Tide. Also the reason for storming the field after the win this year.

Against Ms State Ole Miss is 45-20-4 against State with a lot of States wins coming in last few years. A lot of the younger folks probably see State as a rival now due to them beating our booty the last few years. As an old fart nearing 50 my hatred for LSU has grown for years and with each lose to Ms State the hatred is growing closer.

[BR549]

LSU since 1939 has a record of 38-33-4 against the Rebels. Tight series. In the prior 7 seasons before the Billy Cannon run Ole Miss had won 6 of 7 against LSU. The rivalry started during this time and has continued due to the series being so close and so many crazy things happening.

Alabama is not considered a rival for Ole Miss because the Rebels have won like 5 games in the last 100 against the Tide. Also the reason for storming the field after the win this year.

Against Ms State Ole Miss is 45-20-4 against State with a lot of States wins coming in last few years. A lot of the younger folks probably see State as a rival now due to them beating our booty the last few years. As an old fart nearing 50 my hatred for LSU has grown for years and with each lose to Ms State the hatred is growing closer.

Not trying to hijack the thread Nutmeg but the on field record of state vs Ole miss 59-45-6 in Ole Miss favor! Plus state holds the largest win in the series at 65-0 and also the longest winning streak at 13 in a row!