New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby LODI QUACKER » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:36 pm

Shure does make it easy to know if that trip is worth it.
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby Wingman » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:11 pm

Then let me say this about the game wardens, some of which are friends of mine. Why are they "the gotcha guy" instead of the information specialist. I was being checked by one a particular day and we had 3hunters with maybe a one man limit. He proceeded to check the ducks for baiting. I would hope if 3 hunters were baiting a hole we would have limited out. Secondly I asked a question about a hunting a different animal and he said "I dont know." Well sir then why should you be enforcing "some" of the laws you "know?"
Everybody knows game wardens ain't smart enough to have all the answers!

But tell me, how was he "checking ducks for bait?" I've made numerous bait cases where limits weren't taken. Some people just suck at poaching.
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby mudsucker » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:44 pm

^^^^^^^^
Waiting for them to poop. He wasn't to bright.
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby LODI QUACKER » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:28 am

We kill birds all the time that are full of grain.

So i guess next time i kill a bird with corn falling out of his beak ill get busted for baiting? That greanjeans was screwing with you or wasnt too smart.
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby munyoz70 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:45 am

jmh600 wrote:
munyoz70 wrote:great point.

Also why is the head of Dept of Wildlife appointed not elected?

Head of agriculture and most other government agentcies are elected.

If they are here to support the intrest of the people wouldnt that make more sense?

Why is MS not on the tag program? Lets just say buck tags. You get "x" amount of buck tags. You get your limit and your done. If your caught breaking the law first offense is severe $5k second offense you loose license 5 years and large fine if caught 3rd time lose license for life and jail time. This would element all the BS lies with our current "honor system" while also challenging hunters to be way more selective than the standard low rent response "well its state legal ain't it" knowing that scum has killied 15 state legal bucks this year but no way to prove it especially with all the evidence 3hrs south/southwest of current location.

I can only imagine how high this gets our officers blood pressure.
No thanks, take that talk somewhere else. If a man needs to kill more than 5 does and 3 bucks to manage his deer herd then so be it. The tag system might work on public lands and maybe thats what your talking about, but the whole state?? No
Did I say doe tags? No just bucks.

So are you saying it is ok to break the laws if you deem it nessacery?

If they are such a responsible manager of land they OWN or the herd they POSSES, I would assum a concerned conservationist as stated would take more delight in not hoarding THEIR herd, but sharing the harvesting of these animals with less fortunate citizens, children, veterans, wounded veterans, termanally ill children or disabled persons. Obviously they have more than enough to share from your statement.

Just an observation.

But what about all these hands that are burning the roads up blasting up the woods, not just public but all the private lands being poached and bastardized year round at someone else's expense? I know a concerned conservationist such as yourself with your adiquatly managed yet over populated herd has been faced with these people before. Heck with a quality herd bet they are a constant issue.
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby Dux Be Us » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:06 pm

STAY HOME!!!
AINT NO DUX!!!
It AINT GOT NO WATER IN IT!!!

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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby GrizwalD » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:08 am

novacaine wrote:
420 racin wrote:I never said they were getting rich by managing the Corps land, my point is they aren't going broke.

I know for 100% the corps buys the majority of the tractors, gates, gravel, planters, pumps, wells, etc.. for the majority of the WMA's that the Corps owns. The Corps owns, or at least the Vicksburg District, owns about 30k acres, probably more by now, I haven;t checked in a while what they are up to now, of this land in MS and LA and AR, the majority of it is in MS Delta. The Big Twist area and all the other mitigation land is for "wetland" mitigation for impacts incurred during flood control projects, etc.. undertaken by the Corps. Not all wetlands are waterfowl habitat, some of them are. The Corps is looking at large tracts of land, mainly wetlands. If some of it is terrestrial, it can still be classified as a wetland as long as it meets the criteria definded in the three parameter approach. If the state wants to manage some of these areas as waterfowl habitat and there is a suitable place on said property, then the State has to approve all the clearing, dirt work, etc... they plan to do with the Corps. The Corps isn't into managing the land for waterfowl or terrestrial wildlife, they are required under the Clean water act to mitigate, or replace the lands they impact or destroy. That's it, they let the State manage it for the wildlife.

I know this subject very well.

My point in all this is, the State isn't shelling out all this money they would like the public to believe they are, yet they always still need to charge you more and more at every turn in order to make up for the money they are spending....what are they spending it on, why are they always needing us, the hunters to keep paying more and more?.....cause they think they can....Greed plain and simple
Have you ever asked what designated fees and permits are used for? Isn't there some type of accounting they have to make or is it put into state general fund or MDWFP fund code? Do you think its for fuel,pencils , and ticket books?
I'm sure there is a better explanation than Greed plain and simple.
Governmental Accounting..... totally different animal.
State general fund sounds like a good one to stick it in or we can just make another random fund, who caarrreesss ....
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby Anatidae » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:41 pm

Fiscal Accountability. If the sponsor is going to provide public hunting opportunities and maintain the resource, facilities, staff, and infrastructure........from a business standpoint, the activity offered should come close to paying for itself. I'm not so sure the previous fee structure supported that.

The only thing I see they might reconsider is an earlier cut-off time for stand-by applicants to submit their fee and draw for an open stand. As it is......stand-by's will be entering the same area as permit holders - around or just after legal shooting time (depending on the particular area(s) adopting this new procedure) which may affect the parties already set-up and ready (i.e. trying) to hunt.
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby Wildfowler » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:39 am

munyoz70 wrote: proceeded to check the ducks for baiting.
How do you check a dead duck for baiting
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby munyoz70 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:20 pm

Wildfowler wrote:
munyoz70 wrote: proceeded to check the ducks for baiting.
How do you check a dead duck for baiting

That was my same question.
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby Wingman » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:00 pm

No it wasn't. Tell the whole story.
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby Dux Be Us » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:07 pm

Wingman wrote:No it wasn't. Tell the whole story.

Rut Row Shaggy :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: New draw procedures at Unnamed Public spot

Postby Barq's » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:33 pm

guess no one has to worry about any draw procedures any time soon.....

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