What should I do...??

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What should I do...??

Postby Dr. B » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:21 pm

Started to work with my dog last week with hand signals. I reviewed some force fetching drills which he did very well. My problem is that he's accustomed to bringing the bumper/bird back and heeling up to my side and sitting. I'm trying to get him to stop short and face me so he can see my face and watch the direction I send him. He just can't seem to stop bringing the bird to my side. I've got him on a choke chain but it gets all tangled up and in the way when he retrieves so I'm not a fan of that. We've only been doing the drill for a couple of days. Should I be worried or just keep working him hoping he'll get it. Thanks.

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Re: What should I do...??

Postby Gene » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:33 pm

Sorry but I don't understand the problem. Returning to your side is the proper way to deliver and is the way the dog was taught I am sure. He doesnt have to deliver in front to be taught handling. Need more info. Are you working with a pro? Who did force fetch? Are you following a training program? Bill Hillman has some good you tube videos you can watch and some more detailed training videos you can purchase.

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Re: What should I do...??

Postby B3 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:45 pm

Work on front finish on lead first without bumper in mouth. I use hand down low between my legs to tell him that's where to go. Can have a treat to lure him to that spot when reaches proper position say sit and give treat. Hand to side means side finish. You can guide with lead to either position and reward for the correct position. Later add in with him holding bumper.
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Re: What should I do...??

Postby B3 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:46 pm

Also can blow sit whistle right before he gets to you and when he sits step up to take bumper and then step back to cast.
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Re: What should I do...??

Postby 99beers » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:06 pm

B3 wrote:Also can blow sit whistle right before he gets to you and when he sits step up to take bumper and then step back to cast.
Ahhhh. Thats it. :idea:
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Re: What should I do...??

Postby EvanG » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:24 am

Dr. B wrote:Started to work with my dog last week with hand signals. I reviewed some force fetching drills which he did very well. My problem is that he's accustomed to bringing the bumper/bird back and heeling up to my side and sitting. I'm trying to get him to stop short and face me so he can see my face and watch the direction I send him. He just can't seem to stop bringing the bird to my side. I've got him on a choke chain but it gets all tangled up and in the way when he retrieves so I'm not a fan of that. We've only been doing the drill for a couple of days. Should I be worried or just keep working him hoping he'll get it. Thanks.

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Depending on the skills you've given him, such as sit to whistle, that would be a big help in establishing and promoting the front sit delivery you're after. Of course, it's a good thing to teach starting out, but no reason you can't do it now.

So, you have started 3-handed casting for your basic hand signals?

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Re: What should I do...??

Postby 99beers » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:26 pm

EvanG wrote:
Dr. B wrote:Started to work with my dog last week with hand signals. I reviewed some force fetching drills which he did very well. My problem is that he's accustomed to bringing the bumper/bird back and heeling up to my side and sitting. I'm trying to get him to stop short and face me so he can see my face and watch the direction I send him. He just can't seem to stop bringing the bird to my side. I've got him on a choke chain but it gets all tangled up and in the way when he retrieves so I'm not a fan of that. We've only been doing the drill for a couple of days. Should I be worried or just keep working him hoping he'll get it. Thanks.

Dr. B
Depending on the skills you've given him, such as sit to whistle, that would be a big help in establishing and promoting the front sit delivery you're after. Of course, it's a good thing to teach starting out, but no reason you can't do it now.

So, you have started 3-handed casting for your basic hand signals?

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We covered that Evan.....read much?
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Re: What should I do...??

Postby EvanG » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:01 am

99beers wrote:
EvanG wrote:So, you have started 3-handed casting for your basic hand signals?

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We covered that Evan.....read much?
And where does it say that, troll queen?

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