Liquor in Brandon, MS

[munyoz70]

Lil white lie. I agree with you somewhat and can see your side of the point. Unfortunately we cant high fence Brandon. If it wasnt for I-20 I would say lets put toll bridges over the pearl river.

So how do we support what is already here?

Do you think that a tax increase would pass here in the most conservative county in USA?

As for your social and religious opinions I can respect anyones stance on that even if I dont agree. That is part of being an American.

Ramsey

Not arguing more commerce brings more traffice. But our traffic is already terrible and the only way to combat that is more blacktop or tell people to quit driving correct? Obviously the pre-existing tax base cannot support our current infastructure. So how do we propose correcting this issue that is already here?

Let me state that I do not want to live in a big city no more than any of yall.

Lets look at Jackson, a town we all agree is the plague of our area. What happened in Jackson? My dad grew up in south jackson and in his time it was Mayberry too. Now what went wrong?
-The poplulation grew. In 2008 the worlds population was growing at 7%. Unless you believe in communism and poplulation control, this is inevitable. Birth control and contraceptives work but the hypocritical hard right wingers want to outlaw obortions, not fun birth control thru goverment healthcare BUT then complain about how many people on wellfare. The same things they want banned help control a problem they hate.
-Once the city expanded people said its easy to just move out (the white flight) than try and stick around and help fix the problem
-The flight caused lower housing cost, property values and tax revenue.
-This took the funding for the Public works, infastructure, police and smart politicians.
-Now Jackson is a crumbling jungle that even the natives cant survive in. So they took are in search of better oportunities.

Brandon is an aging city, its not new and it has older housing and retail stores some of which are vacant.
1)Our own citizens instead of renavating current house decide to buy newer ones leaving aged houses with lower prices.
2)Our own citizens deciding they dont mind traveling to eat or dont eat here due to redundancy or lack of options spend money in surrounding area.
A)growing that city they travel too
B)closing down our businesses (Annie D's was good and reasonbly priced so the good food pitch wont work. Sundays you couldnt get in there. Why? Because Sunday's are family days, not many folks drinking, the post church crowd and people want to stay close to home. Where is this same crowd on week nights?

Brandon is following right in Jacksons foot steps. It as well as other towns have the build new, move on mentality. This mentality leaves aged house and vacant commercial properties. You dont want car lots, check cashing, KJ's suit city, the wig stores, city trends or other undesirable businesses in your community or the people those places bring? But you build new buy new and dont reinvest or renovate but complain about the vaccum that leaves. Thats hypocritical its like giving your clothes to the Goodwill and then complaining about the people that want to wear them.

Hardcore Liberalism and Hardcore Conservatism will not work in the world we live in today. There has to be some sort of compromise. We have always heard that "If you want the story told your way, you better tell it first." Lets try and work together to while it is still our community and we still see the same common ground. Take a stroll thru all of Brandon this evening and take a close look at everything. Believe it or not the urban sprawl is coming and we will not have as much influence in our community. Before we turn into Jackson, lets get our head out of the sand and compromise a little before we loose a lot.

-Brett

[GrizwalD]

i advise everyone to vote against this crap. we dont need it. nobody does.
you add liquor sales you increase the odds of one of your loved ones being in a alcohol related accident. Why would you vote for such?
Brandon needs leadership that can manage a budget and control thier reckless spending habits. they have broke the city and theyre hoping this will be their "stimulus package"
brandon is and has always been a "bedroom community" thats why folks live here. theyre far enough away but close enough to all the stuff some of you support in bringing here.
you add this liquor law, a store will be next.. then you might get a chain restuarant like longhorn or something that sales a below average meal,, but itll have a bar!! woohoo
or what if you get a mall, movie theater,etc??? then we could have the same scum loitering around them like all the others do!!
i say this.. if you love what the other cities have.. move to them..

Well how often do YOU visit those "other towns" for your necessties or pleasure??? With that attitude just stay in Brandon and get everything you need there... see how that works out for you !!! But i bet 100 to 1 you wont stay in Brandon and not enjoy all the ammenities of the other towns

[Buckwabit]

i advise everyone to vote against this crap. we dont need it. nobody does.
you add liquor sales you increase the odds of one of your loved ones being in a alcohol related accident. Why would you vote for such?
Brandon needs leadership that can manage a budget and control thier reckless spending habits. they have broke the city and theyre hoping this will be their "stimulus package"
brandon is and has always been a "bedroom community" thats why folks live here. theyre far enough away but close enough to all the stuff some of you support in bringing here.
you add this liquor law, a store will be next.. then you might get a chain restuarant like longhorn or something that sales a below average meal,, but itll have a bar!! woohoo
or what if you get a mall, movie theater,etc??? then we could have the same scum loitering around them like all the others do!!
i say this.. if you love what the other cities have.. move to them..

Well how often do YOU visit those "other towns" for your necessties or pleasure??? With that attitude just stay in Brandon and get everything you need there... see how that works out for you !!! But i bet 100 to 1 you wont stay in Brandon and not enjoy all the ammenities of the other towns

I can't figure out people like you....What does one thing have to do with the other???? Just because you don't want it in your town does not mean your against it..Alot of people will vote NO because they don't mind the Long and Boring 15 Min drive to get some in the neighboring town...

[munyoz70]

Yes Chad that is hypocritical. Hypocrite - noun - 1) a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion 2) a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. Straight from websters dictionary.

Not throwing stones but just calling everything black and white. Stating facts. Which is what a debate is suppopsed to be. Not opinions.

Fact- if you enjoy alcohol in your home but dont want it in your community you are a hypocrite. To take this further not only are you a hypocrite but you are also the person that you hate in your own minset. If alcohol brings trash into communities by default of your own statement you are trash, cause you are purchasing, possessing and consuming this so called trash magnet your referring to.

We have all heard the term "Trailer Trash" Does this mean that house trailers make people trashy? If so the majority of every member on here is trashy cause most hunting camps have house trailers. BUT we know this isnt true and prob know great american people who live in house trailers.

2nd amendment activist say dont blame the gun or the bullet blame the shooter. How is that any different than alcohol.

Slips Trips and Falls account for 15% of all accidental deaths second only the motor vehicles. Should we outlaw walking? Disguard sidewalks in our communities? Or teach people to never let your feet go where your eyes have not been first?

[GrizwalD]

Yes Chad that is hypocritical. Hypocrite - noun - 1) a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion 2) a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. Straight from websters dictionary.

Not throwing stones but just calling everything black and white. Stating facts. Which is what a debate is suppopsed to be. Not opinions.

Fact- if you enjoy alcohol in your home but dont want it in your community you are a hypocrite. To take this further not only are you a hypocrite but you are also the person that you hate in your own minset. If alcohol brings trash into communities by default of your own statement you are trash, cause you are purchasing, possessing and consuming this so called trash magnet your referring to.

We have all heard the term "Trailer Trash" Does this mean that house trailers make people trashy? If so the majority of every member on here is trashy cause most hunting camps have house trailers. BUT we know this isnt true and prob know great american people who live in house trailers.

2nd amendment activist say dont blame the gun or the bullet blame the shooter. How is that any different than alcohol.

Slips Trips and Falls account for 15% of all accidental deaths second only the motor vehicles. Should we outlaw walking? Disguard sidewalks in our communities? Or teach people to never let your feet go where your eyes have not been first?

Thank you OZ for clearing that up for him...... BW so you dont get people like me??? Whats that supposed to mean you dont understand those who believe its wrong to be hypocritical??? not sure im getting where your coming from.....

[Buckwabit]

Yes Chad that is hypocritical. Hypocrite - noun - 1) a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion 2) a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. Straight from websters dictionary.

Not throwing stones but just calling everything black and white. Stating facts. Which is what a debate is suppopsed to be. Not opinions.

Fact- if you enjoy alcohol in your home but dont want it in your community you are a hypocrite. To take this further not only are you a hypocrite but you are also the person that you hate in your own minset. If alcohol brings trash into communities by default of your own statement you are trash, cause you are purchasing, possessing and consuming this so called trash magnet your referring to.

We have all heard the term "Trailer Trash" Does this mean that house trailers make people trashy? If so the majority of every member on here is trashy cause most hunting camps have house trailers. BUT we know this isnt true and prob know great american people who live in house trailers.

So just because you don't want Liquor in your town your a Hypocrite??? You guys kill me. I'm out of this. I need to go by some oranges from my local store....o wait a minuet....they don't sell them..That's ok with me..I'll go where they sell them and hypocrites are welcome...

[Buckwabit]

Yes Chad that is hypocritical. Hypocrite - noun - 1) a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion 2) a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. Straight from websters dictionary.

Not throwing stones but just calling everything black and white. Stating facts. Which is what a debate is suppopsed to be. Not opinions.

Fact- if you enjoy alcohol in your home but dont want it in your community you are a hypocrite. To take this further not only are you a hypocrite but you are also the person that you hate in your own minset. If alcohol brings trash into communities by default of your own statement you are trash, cause you are purchasing, possessing and consuming this so called trash magnet your referring to.

We have all heard the term "Trailer Trash" Does this mean that house trailers make people trashy? If so the majority of every member on here is trashy cause most hunting camps have house trailers. BUT we know this isnt true and prob know great american people who live in house trailers.

2nd amendment activist say dont blame the gun or the bullet blame the shooter. How is that any different than alcohol.

Slips Trips and Falls account for 15% of all accidental deaths second only the motor vehicles. Should we outlaw walking? Disguard sidewalks in our communities? Or teach people to never let your feet go where your eyes have not been first?

Thank you OZ for clearing that up for him...... BW so you dont get people like me??? Whats that supposed to mean you dont understand those who believe its wrong to be hypocritical??? not sure im getting where your coming from.....

There is not one single person on this earth that has never been a hypocrite at one time or the other! So now you can cast the first stone so to speak

[GrizwalD]

Yes Chad that is hypocritical. Hypocrite - noun - 1) a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion 2) a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. Straight from websters dictionary.

Not throwing stones but just calling everything black and white. Stating facts. Which is what a debate is suppopsed to be. Not opinions.

Fact- if you enjoy alcohol in your home but dont want it in your community you are a hypocrite. To take this further not only are you a hypocrite but you are also the person that you hate in your own minset. If alcohol brings trash into communities by default of your own statement you are trash, cause you are purchasing, possessing and consuming this so called trash magnet your referring to.

We have all heard the term "Trailer Trash" Does this mean that house trailers make people trashy? If so the majority of every member on here is trashy cause most hunting camps have house trailers. BUT we know this isnt true and prob know great american people who live in house trailers.

2nd amendment activist say dont blame the gun or the bullet blame the shooter. How is that any different than alcohol.

Slips Trips and Falls account for 15% of all accidental deaths second only the motor vehicles. Should we outlaw walking? Disguard sidewalks in our communities? Or teach people to never let your feet go where your eyes have not been first?

Thank you OZ for clearing that up for him...... BW so you dont get people like me??? Whats that supposed to mean you dont understand those who believe its wrong to be hypocritical??? not sure im getting where your coming from.....

There is not one single person on this earth that has never been a hypocrite at one time or the other! So now you can cast the first stone so to speak

Man i quit ..... yall can have yalls washed up city ..... keep spending your hard earned money in other towns, trust me it aint hurting them.

[munyoz70]

Your right hipocracy is everywhere, including Puckett where you live. Just like the preacher at oakdale, I'm glad your interested in our town but should you be trying to sway opinions?

I'm pretty sure that Jesus of Nazareth called more people out for being hypocrites than bring drinks or homeless. In fact Jesus is my hero, he was a hard booty! He walked into the temple guarded by roman soldiers who were the special forces of that era, and he started calling names, flipping tables and raising cane and no one touched him!

[deltadukman]

Well that escalated quickly.


Let's keep the name calling and finger pointing to a minimum. It is a hot topic and a very divided one in the community that will no doubt impact the future of Brandon. A town that we call home and have similar and different views on how it's future should be directed.

[MSDawg870]

I need a drink.

[blackhawk0718]

Look here I work for the city of Brandon
this just to sell it by the glass in places like applebees, and other restaurant, I promise you Butch Lee is not gonna
let liquor stores come. We already have other restaurants and stores that want to come to Brandon if we pass this.
If Brandon does not attract more businesses then there will be even more employees layed off such as your police, firemen, public works(these are the folks that keep your water and streets and more up)
If the Fire rating goes up because there is not enough fire men then your home owners insurance goes up meaning more money out your pocket, and less likely able to sell your home in Brandon.

Its also proven in flowood that crimes has gone down and they have less DUIs.

IF your against drinking thats fine DONT DRINK order your tea or coke, but vote for this so you have more choices to eat out and shop.

[lilwhitelie]

If Brandon is in as much debt as proposed then the sell of liqueur by the glass isn't going to generate enough to keep them afloat. Traffic will increase and thus more spending on road upkeep etc. Brandon doesn't have the retail that draws eating crowds. Brandon folks will still go to Floowood or elsewhere to eat. Shop at bass pro and get a bite to eat.

Look at Floowood and present day mugshots. How many different joints has it been since the sell of liqueur was passed???

How can fannin mart make it in such a small space??? Because it's good and sells no liqueur.

People pack Jerry's and berrys every day in Florence. So much so that berrys is building a huge new updated million plus building. And it ain't Florence folks keeping them packed.

Creshels in Jackson is still kicking although they are trying to move. Some may remember a Creshels in Brandon years ago that failed miserably. People ate out when they went to Metrocenter etc. it was a big deal as a kid then to shop and eat out. We weren't going to eat then drive to shop. Same will apply now. Sure it will be nice to have choices but it will not solve the finial woes in the long run. A band aid
fix I am afraid. Already cutting police force and other areas we don't need cutting. Something has to give.

[SB]

I was driving by deltadukman's house when I saw this in his yard!

[deltadukman]

My house is on the highway! That's not the highway!

Creshales didn't have anything to do with income....it was his sons mismanagement...for lack of a better term.

It's not the liquor sales that bring in tax base...it's what moves here because of its allowance.

And I don't think mugshots,where it is today, was anything other than a mugshots since liquor was passed. The original mugshots was in Jackson, has always had something in it, and had changed business's for many years.