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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby Greenhead22 » Fri May 11, 2012 8:50 am

Bianco wasn't the reason for that turnaround. It was because of a certain asst coach he hired. Ole Miss fans will even admit to it.
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby Deltamud77 » Fri May 11, 2012 8:57 am

Greenhead22 wrote:Bianco wasn't the reason for that turnaround. It was because of a certain asst coach he hired. Ole Miss fans will even admit to it.
That makes perfect sense. The backup QB is also always the best QB.
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby SWAG » Fri May 11, 2012 9:38 am

My opinion of Bianco is that he is a pretty good coach, but has made some decisions to hurt himself at some crucial moments. I think had he had an old school type in the dugout with him that UM would have made it to Omaha a couple of times during those good runs. Is he Top 5? I doubt that he is but surely he is a top 20.

Does Biance deserve the credit for UM becoming a good baseball program? As with everything, it is not a cut and dried answer. He deserves credit for some of it. The coach before him is who really turned a sinking ship into a floating vessel. Bianco just added stability and improved from there.
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby camlock » Fri May 11, 2012 9:45 pm

Greenhead22 wrote:Bianco wasn't the reason for that turnaround. It was because of a certain asst coach he hired. Ole Miss fans will even admit to it.
If he must shoulder any blame due to fact it comes down to him, then same should be said for praise I think...

I also think that as fans we can't fully perceive exactly what influence a coach does or does not have over specific areas in question (ie. player execution as opposed to coaching in critical points, asstant coach responsibilities) because we simply don't know enough about what's going on inside. It's all perception and second hand knowledge, unfortunately for a coaches reputation, perception generally is accepted reality.

I agree, his assistants were a big part of his success...his lack of good replacements seemingly a big part of the lull in success...but, I believe as much as he is responsible for not getting the right assistants he is responsible for getting the good ones too, that's part of his job. They didn't just show up and do whatever they wanted to create success.
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby stitch » Sun May 13, 2012 10:11 am

camlock wrote:
Greenhead22 wrote:Bianco wasn't the reason for that turnaround. It was because of a certain asst coach he hired. Ole Miss fans will even admit to it.
If he must shoulder any blame due to fact it comes down to him, then same should be said for praise I think...

I also think that as fans we can't fully perceive exactly what influence a coach does or does not have over specific areas in question (ie. player execution as opposed to coaching in critical points, asstant coach responsibilities) because we simply don't know enough about what's going on inside. It's all perception and second hand knowledge, unfortunately for a coaches reputation, perception generally is accepted reality.

I agree, his assistants were a big part of his success...his lack of good replacements seemingly a big part of the lull in success...but, I believe as much as he is responsible for not getting the right assistants he is responsible for getting the good ones too, that's part of his job. They didn't just show up and do whatever they wanted to create success.

It's every State fan's wish.....as it was with Orgeron.....that Mississippi signs Bianco to a 30 year deal. Almost....almost....almost......bottom line is that Mississippi hasn't been to the CWS in 40 years. If we want ot count close (as often happens with the Mississippi faithful)....then we need to count State as making a trip to the CWS last year since we were only 2 out away from a CWS appearance.......does that mean Cohen is a top 5 coach as well since he almost made it to the CWS? Just asking
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby camlock » Sun May 13, 2012 10:40 pm

stitch wrote:
camlock wrote: If he must shoulder any blame due to fact it comes down to him, then same should be said for praise I think...

I also think that as fans we can't fully perceive exactly what influence a coach does or does not have over specific areas in question (ie. player execution as opposed to coaching in critical points, asstant coach responsibilities) because we simply don't know enough about what's going on inside. It's all perception and second hand knowledge, unfortunately for a coaches reputation, perception generally is accepted reality.

I agree, his assistants were a big part of his success...his lack of good replacements seemingly a big part of the lull in success...but, I believe as much as he is responsible for not getting the right assistants he is responsible for getting the good ones too, that's part of his job. They didn't just show up and do whatever they wanted to create success.
It's every State fan's wish.....as it was with Orgeron.....that Mississippi signs Bianco to a 30 year deal. Almost....almost....almost......bottom line is that Mississippi hasn't been to the CWS in 40 years. If we want ot count close (as often happens with the Mississippi faithful)....then we need to count State as making a trip to the CWS last year since we were only 2 out away from a CWS appearance.......does that mean Cohen is a top 5 coach as well since he almost made it to the CWS? Just asking
I agree, it's the overwhelming measures Bianco is going to be held to until he overcomes that milestone. Nobody is counting close as anything but close and I personally never said Bianco was a top 5 coach (I said Ole Miss likely ain't getting a better coach), and while it is not level of desired success and is a black eye on his resume, the record combined with the number of pro players the program is churning out is a measure of success and sign of a very good head coach. If Bianco does keep winning and eventually starts getting to Omaha, given everything else he has accomplished in college baseball could he be ranked top 5? I think so, and if Cohen wins at the same clip, even if he falls short some times then yeah he would be same...but there quite a few more years left of Cohen on the job to make such a comparison.
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby Deltamud77 » Mon May 14, 2012 7:31 am

LSU lost two of three to Vandy at home this weekend and now gets to conclude SEC play with a trip to USCe. Unfortunately, LSU is turning into what I thought they would be all along. Decent pitching team with no hitting.
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby riverat » Mon May 14, 2012 3:34 pm

Deltamud77 wrote:LSU lost two of three to Vandy at home this weekend and now gets to conclude SEC play with a trip to USCe. Unfortunately, LSU is turning into what I thought they would be all along. Decent pitching team with no hitting.

Mirror image of State except yall actually have someone hitting over .300 :cry: i think our pitching staff is shaping up to be one of the best in baseball.
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby Deltamud77 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:51 pm

riverat wrote:
Deltamud77 wrote:LSU lost two of three to Vandy at home this weekend and now gets to conclude SEC play with a trip to USCe. Unfortunately, LSU is turning into what I thought they would be all along. Decent pitching team with no hitting.

Mirror image of State except yall actually have someone hitting over .300 :cry: i think our pitching staff is shaping up to be one of the best in baseball.
Had someone hitting over .500 heading into the weekend. He left the weekend hitting .478. Had two hits in the three game series.
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby SWAG » Fri May 18, 2012 8:59 am

Game 1 goes to the Dogs!!!
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby hillhunter » Fri May 18, 2012 8:34 pm

Looks like game 2 will go to the refs!!
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby Greenhead22 » Sat May 19, 2012 6:18 pm

One of my favorite weekends of Miss State baseball.
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby SWAG » Mon May 21, 2012 7:01 am

A great weekend for the Dogs. Exciting baseball and hopefully a wave of confidence and enthusiasm going into tournament play. This pitching staff is set up nice for tournaments. Lets hope we can hit the ball.

Is there an outside chance to host a regional in Starkville???
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Re: SEC Baseball 2012

Postby Greenhead22 » Mon May 21, 2012 7:41 am

Slim and none unless we make some noise in the tourney. Talking championship game noise.

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