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Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:52 pm
by Back!
Wesley, I am so thankful you and David are ok. You always impressed me as being level headed so I'm sure that helped. Since I know how much Missy means to you; glad y'all were able to get her out. Although Courtney might have finished you off if you had come home without her.

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:54 pm
by Anatidae
Ditto! Glad you guys and Missy girl are OK.

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:53 pm
by Wingman
If you fall in and your feet come up, it's hard to get air-filled boots down while you are holding your breath. I never wear waders in a boat.

Everybody try it out in the shallow end of the pool this summer and have a friend standing by to help. See what happens when your feet float in waders.

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:29 pm
by ShotgunSP
Wingman wrote:If you fall in and your feet come up, it's hard to get air-filled boots down while you are holding your breath.
Had this happen two weeks ago to a buddy I was hunting with. He tripped and fell face first, water rushed in and his feet came up forcing his head under. Was very scary for a few seconds until we could help him up.

Very glad you fellas are ok.

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:34 pm
by Blackduck
I'm so full of chit I float.

Glad y'all are ok. I had some "guides" run their boat onto a dead cypress butt. Water poured over the transom and we started going down like a cheap (insert slang for the worlds oldest profession)
:mrgreen:

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:24 pm
by hntrpat1
Always wear a waders belt fellas

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:08 pm
by quack fiend
cwink wrote:Glad you all are ok.. A great reminder to never take any safety precautions for granite.
I don't know, granite can be pretty expensive these days!

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:46 pm
by Dux Be Us
Wingman wrote:If you fall in and your feet come up, it's hard to get air-filled boots down while you are holding your breath. I never wear waders in a boat.

Everybody try it out in the shallow end of the pool this summer and have a friend standing by to help. See what happens when your feet float in waders.

Got into a catfish pond over my head chasing a dang goose one day. Cold water and sudden panick sucked the energy right outta me...slick muddy bottom was tough ta get a footing. Had a decoy hook I was able to jam in the mud and push myself back towards the bank. You will float, but, its an awkward position to be in for any amount of time. Getting your feet back under yourself is tough...dont wear your waders, wear one of them ugly bulky orange life vest :wink:

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:22 pm
by rawalley
Dux Be Us wrote:
Wingman wrote:If you fall in and your feet come up, it's hard to get air-filled boots down while you are holding your breath. I never wear waders in a boat.

Everybody try it out in the shallow end of the pool this summer and have a friend standing by to help. See what happens when your feet float in waders.

Got into a catfish pond over my head chasing a dang goose one day. Cold water and sudden panick sucked the energy right outta me...slick muddy bottom was tough ta get a footing. Had a decoy hook I was able to jam in the mud and push myself back towards the bank. You will float, but, its an awkward position to be in for any amount of time. Getting your feet back under yourself is tough...dont wear your waders, wear one of them ugly bulky orange life vest :wink:

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:41 pm
by tdaggett
Thank goodness everyone, including the dog, is OK!
Let me try to put the "floating waders" to rest.
Neoprene, all by itself, will float. A bucket made of neoprene (waders) will not float.
The neoprene your waders are made of is just like the neoprene a wetsuit (which is intended to absorb water and let your body heat warm the thin layer of trapped water to act as an insulator in moderately cool water. A drysuit is made of the type with a waterproof finish on the outside like your waders, but is sealed with very tight wrist, ankle, and neck openings.) is made of, with one small difference. The outer skin is waterproof. The inner side of your waders is not waterproof and will absorb water. There are air bubbles in the material, but not nearly enough to provide the buoyance required to float you if the waders fill up. You may float, but like someone else mentioned, you'll be upside down, assuming your feet came up before the boots are completely full.
A long time ago, I spent the better part of 4 years as a Navy rescue swimmer, wearing wetsuits, drysuits, and swimsuits,and I have seen this all put to the test under controlled conditions, during training provided by Uncle Sam.
Again, thank God everyone is OK. See above, I've seen several, and boating accidents/water rescues are no joke especially when the temps are down.

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:05 pm
by mudsucker
crackhead wrote:
chevy01234 wrote:
mudsucker wrote:http://www.ducksouth.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=99145
Are you kidding me? Grow up man! Your "joking" is going too far!

Mud... Dirty laundry or not your a douche!


This is a public land success story. Glad a fellow duck hunter helped out another brother.
slave601 I'm guessing malmaison?
I should have quoted this as that is what I was eluding to, NOT the fact that someone got in a bad accident. I too am very glad it turned out alright for all involved. Naming the WMA added nothing to the post and I was trying to warn-a-brotha. Sorry if I offended anyone or their sensibilities. Was not my intention. I try to warn people, as did someone in the Cutoff thread. That is quite the discussion now.

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:08 am
by Negotiator
My son's and I wear the CO2 inflating life vest. The rule is , we don't leave the ramp without everyone wearing theirs. I hunt with mine on and never know it's there. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten in the truck with mine still on.... Very comfortable. To inflate, you pull a tab at the bottom of the zipper.... The only issue is if you are rendered un-conscience at impact and can't deploy the vest.... I've read you can buy them with water sensors that self inflate but I couldn't find them.

I am not sure of the brand I bought but I ordered them online from Mac's for about $150 each. Worth every penny, in my opinion.

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:17 am
by GreenheadJim
Negotiator wrote:My son's and I wear the CO2 inflating life vest. The rule is , we don't leave the ramp without everyone wearing theirs. I hunt with mine on and never know it's there. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten in the truck with mine still on.... Very comfortable. To inflate, you pull a tab at the bottom of the zipper.... The only issue is if you are rendered un-conscience at impact and can't deploy the vest.... I've read you can buy them with water sensors that self inflate but I couldn't find them.

I am not sure of the brand I bought but I ordered them online from Mac's for about $150 each. Worth every penny, in my opinion.
I had a couple of GW and various other people tell me that the C02 life vests would not operate proplerly under freezing temps. Haven't had to worry about that much this year. You might want to check into that Negotiator.

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:01 am
by Wingman
We have the manually operated inflatables now. Going to autos soon. The inflatables are only legal when worn, FYI, unlike regular pfd's that you only have to have in the boat, readily accessible.

I think the man that recently drowned in the RBR had a manual inflatable.

Re: Boat sunk at Greentree this morning.....

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:15 am
by chevy01234
Wingman wrote:We have the manually operated inflatables now. Going to autos soon. The inflatables are only legal when worn, FYI, unlike regular pfd's that you only have to have in the boat, readily accessible.

I think the man that recently drowned in the RBR had a manual inflatable.

That's dumb. My auto inflatable will float just like one of those $4.00 POS orange ones will. What is the reasoning behind them only legal when worn? I have a Mustang Float Coat too..is it only legal when worn?