Coaching Forum: Who Lands Where In The SEC (and Elsewhere)

[camlock]

I have heard that there is an internal struggle at Auburn over Petrino and Jimbo Fisher. University officials want Fisher and the money men(Bobby and crew).

I don't think Jimbo Fisher would leave FSU for Auburn...unless they paid big time and I don't see what Jimbo has done to earn a eye popping money offer?

but I've also heard and read talk of that name linked with Auburn too...I think anybody that wants to win and win big hires Petrino and give him short pay and short leash and I got a good feeling he'll keep his nose clean and pay off big time.

I hope John Chavis gets the Tennessee job...but I don't know if that'll happen. But I hope so...

[mshunter77]

I think Jimbo learned this year that he does not have a good shot at winning a national title in the ACC. Florida State had one loss and was still ranked behind many two loss teams and had no shot at the title even had they beat Florida.

[Drakeshead]

PTI was talking up Petrino to Auburn.

[Po Monkey Lounger]

Mark Stoops is an interesting hire for UK. Did not see that coming. I would have expected an offensive guru. But, it appears that the Cats have decided to try to rebuild the program around solid defense. And Stoops appears to have a good track record of turning around struggling defenses. The big question will be whether he is head coach material. Being a very good DC doesn't always translate to being a good HC (eg Ellis Johnson at USM). But, there have been great successes (eg Saban, Tuberville, etc.).

Stoops will need a very good OC to pair with his defensive prowess. I would assume that Stoops himself will primarily focus on the defense, perhaps serving as his own DC, at least initially, and let someone else handle the offensive side of the ball. Will be interesting to see what direction they go in offensively.

[Po Monkey Lounger]

IF Auburn hires Petrino, they will eventually regret it. He has serious character flaws that cannot be fixed or overcome by his offensive genius. Just look at his track record --- how he left Louisville --- how he left the Falcons ---- and how his arrogance and selfishness caused him to crash and burn at Arkansas. He has left a trail of personal destruction and sour feelings, burning every bridge behind him. Teams/programs take on the persona of their head coach. If Auburn hires this guy as head coach, then they will truly get the head coach that they so deserve.

This is the perfect opportunity for Auburn to start shedding the influence of Lowder. There is a fork in the road. Which path they take will reveal who they really are and will define Auburn for years to come. Should be interesting to watch.

[bhuggins]

If Auburn hires this guy as head coach, then they will truly get the head coach that they so deserve.

You're right, but unfortunately they'll win a bunch of games before it happens.

[webbmaster]

I hope and pray penisboy goes to Aubrun. It really is a match made in heaven.

Will he win some games? Sure. You can win games at Aubrun. Will he win a lot? Nope.

That boob has left every program in shambles all as a result of his selfishness. To say he wouldn't do the same at Aubrun is naive. Arkansas convinced themselves it was penisboys last stop. But instead, he cheated on his wife, lied to his bosses, hired his mistress, paid her cash and tried to cover it up. That's worse than leaving for another job.

The guy is a horrible recruiter. You think he had problems before going to a recruits home with that god awful personality? Wait til he goes up against Saban for a top recruit, much less any other SEC coach. Any parent who has one ounce of influence on a recruit isn't going to trust that clown. You can come play for a championship program where the coach is going to put your son in the NFL and make him a better person, or you can go play for this lying, backstabbing, adulterer. Take your pick.

What about the Aubrun Creed and the whole Family thing? If penisboy coaches there, it should be mandated those losers have to throw that caca out the window. YOU LOSERS HAVE NEVER BEEN A FAMILY. THERE IS NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT AUBRUN. You hire penisboy and you don't get to use that routine anymore. It's done. You sold your soul for Cam. Now finish the deal. Hire penisboy and put yourselves out of your own misery.

[Deltamud77]

Will he win some games? Sure. You can win games at Aubrun. Will he win a lot? Nope.

I understand your hatred of Auburn as you are a Bama fan. However, you are delusional if you don't think Petrino can win a lot of games at Auburn...including beating Bama. Moreover, he is younger than Saban. If he keeps his nose clean (big IF) and if he can weather the storm of what Saban has built a few more years, he may very well build Auburn into a national power again. Heck, he took Arkansas to a BCS game...Arkansas. No offense to my State and Ole Miss brothers on here, but that is akin to taking one of those schools to a BCS game.

I think Petrino is an awful human (I personally know someone that worked for him at Arky and they confirmed that long ago), but he is IMHO, a Top 5 NCAA coach.

Just sit back and enjoy the ride that Bama is on currently...a dynasty ride no doubt. It will end, Auburn will still exist and the ebb and flow of the rivalry will even out once again.

[camlock]

think the points of his character hindering his ability to recruit, and I'd add also get support in general, will at this point hurt him...he might have tarnished his name too much. I think on the field and within the program, he can do a job good enough to win and win big...but would parents, boosters, etc. trust him enough to buy in and support him overall? That would be a tough call for an AD to have to make in hiring him...

[webbmaster]

...including beating Bama.

He's never done it, so why should I think differently?

[Deltamud77]

He's never done it, so why should I think differently?

1. Saban will not be there forever;
2. Arkansas in an inferior school from a talent perspective;
3. Auburn can get talent and has proven the ability to beat Bama as many as 6 times in a row;
4. Petrino coupled with elite talent means they are gonna beat your Crimson Tide...I know, you know it, everyone knows it.

Side question: When Saban retires in the next few years, who does Bama hire to replace him?

[webbmaster]

1. Saban will not be there forever--- He will be there longer than Petrino...assuming he gets the job.
2. Arkansas in an inferior school from a talent perspective----- so he will be balls out at Auburn?
3. Auburn can get talent and has proven the ability to beat Bama as many as 6 times in a row---- meh...we were heavily sanctioned for many of those years (and for what its worth, at least we were somewhat competitive...in comparison to this Aubrun team the last 2 years --which had NO sanctions---was god awful.)
4. Petrino coupled with elite talent means they are gonna beat your Crimson Tide...I know, you know it, everyone knows it. ----- I will believe it when I see it. He hasnt done it yet. Doesnt even have the job. Speculation is what it is.

Side question: When Saban retires in the next few years, who does Bama hire to replace him?------ Not sure. But it will be in great shape. Find the right guy and he will inherit the same thing Miles did. A solid foundation. Doubt they will mess that up with a Dubose style hire. I personally like Smart.

[augustus_65]

IF Auburn hires Petrino, they will eventually regret it. He has serious character flaws that cannot be fixed or overcome by his offensive genius. Just look at his track record --- how he left Louisville --- how he left the Falcons ---- and how his arrogance and selfishness caused him to crash and burn at Arkansas. He has left a trail of personal destruction and sour feelings, burning every bridge behind him. Teams/programs take on the persona of their head coach. If Auburn hires this guy as head coach, then they will truly get the head coach that they so deserve.

This is the perfect opportunity for Auburn to start shedding the influence of Lowder. There is a fork in the road. Which path they take will reveal who they really are and will define Auburn for years to come. Should be interesting to watch.

Dr. Gogue is in a position that no Auburn president has been in for a very long time, he can actually be a leader and play a significant role in hiring the next coach. The board of trustees has experienced a significant change over the last few years and many of the old power brokers have been ushered out, Lowder included. I am not naive enough to be believe the Bobby still doesnt have influence, but he doesn't call the shots as he did in the past. I do not believe that Auburn will hire Petrino. The leadership in this search take the Auburn Creed seriously and they know they will alienate a significant portion of the scholarship donors by hiring a man that they believe is not representative of Auburn. I dont buy into the NCAA sanctions rumors for the simple reason that Trooper Taylor was retained by the University to continue to run day to day operations and continue to recruit. He and Looper are still on the road recruiting. If Auburn believed there was any merit to the NCAA rumor, do you think they would retain the coaches rumored to be at issue. All of those rumors surrounding Memphis recruiting have been around since August and nothing has materialized. For what its worth, there is a groundswell of support among the players for Kirby Smart, which is likely the result of Pat Dye lobbying behind the scenes.

[hillhunter]

I just cant see how any school would want to put faith in Petrino after all he has done in the past. Makes no sense to me why anyone would want to win that badly to have a guy like that as a coach. Yea he knows the game of football better than 95% of other coaches, but he obviously knows nothing about life.

[bigoak]

Not saying he will but people can and do change. Sometimes it only happens when they absolutely hit rock bottom and recognize that they have real problems. Has Petrino hit rock bottom or is he still in denial? Who knows. I can't see anyone in any of the big conferences taking a chance and giving him a head coaching job right now, maybe never. He may have to go out west to find a job.