Question about Super Black Eagle's

[redleg3316]

will do. I work nights so it will be posted up in the early mornin hours.

[BR549]

J[/quote]
I have though about it.I read on another forum that the first h&k imports were sbe's the latter were called sbe 1's and shortly after sbe 2's.[/quote]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be an booty. Something about having to work Sat and Sun to make up for someone else's myopic ineptitude tends to put me in a bad mood. First there was the Black Eagle it was a 3" gun. You won't see many of these. Then when Benelli made the 3.5" gun it became the Super Black Eagle. HK was importer of these until about Y2K. These will have HK on the reciever and have a low rib on the barrell. Around Y2K Benelli started importing guns themselves. These guns have the raised vent rib on the barrell. This is around the time the left hand version came out. This is also when they upgraded the ejector and added the groove to the bottom of the bolt that keeps the later guns from floating the forth. SBEII added comfortech stock (wood is available), stainless action spring in the stock and extended internal chokes.

I have an SBE. I've shot the SBEII can't see any reason for me to upgrade. My SBE has been dead nuts reliable and all I've ever done is clean it. Two negatives to the SBE...the action spring in the stock can rust if not kept lubed. This is easy enough. With the gun broken down push in the plunger with a screw driver or cleaning rod and load it up with CLP. Work the spring in and out and your done. Then second is the barrel diameter is smaller than nominal for a 12 guage. It can be tough to get great patterns with large shot sizes and factory chokes. If you want a good choke for not much dough pick up a Briley or Trulock LMOD. If you want to spend a little more pick up a Terror .700 from SRM Machine. (They also make the "sure cycle" stainless spring upgrade). The Terror will consistantly pattern everything you can load in the gun in the high 70% range. Good to about 45yds.

My $.02.

J[/quote]

Benelli's first came out in 1967! The first 3" super 90 which later became known as the M1 was somewhere in the early to mid 80's The super Black Eagle followed the next year. The earliest of these were made by Hechler & Koch. These guns were produced for about 2 years and they may or may not have H & K stamped on them. Bennelli started making them themselves somewhere around the late 80's. Benelli was sold to Beretta in 2000. To my knowledge there was no designation that read SBE-1. It was simply called a Super Black Eagle. The SBE-11 came out after the purchase of Benelli by Beretta in 2000. Both are execellent guns. There have been a few problems over the years with both the M1 and the SBE's. The M1's had a rivet inside the barrel that would come loose and they both had recoil tubes that would not tolerate constant baths in water. If this tube ever gets any rust or pitting inside of it, it can cause major problems! Benelli would and still will replace both (the rivet and the tubes)today at N/C to the customer if returned to the factory. Another option would be to go to the sure cycle on the tubes. They are faster than the original Benelli design. The M2's and the SBE-11's do not have these problems.