Miss Man Beaten...West Point

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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby hillhunter » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:16 am

jmh600 wrote:Kinda hard to protest or riot or raise a fuss when you have to go to work atleast 5 days a week if not more..
Ain't that the truth.
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby kb7722 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:22 am

That's right we all have to go to work to pay those taxes to fund the protesters.
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby BBR12 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:51 am

At least I heard last night the MBI has gotten involved in the investigation.
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby 420 racin » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:07 am

We need to write a petetion or something to the AG and the Clay County prosecuter and whoever the hell else demanding that it be tried as a Hate crime. You know raise some hell. All these "politicians" know what it is, whether or not they have the balls to come out and say it and stand up for what is right is a different story, but I don't care who you are or what you say..it's obvious why they beat him like that...blacks don't like whites...period. and of story.
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby bulldog ducker » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:19 am

Wtva reporting arrest has been made with more expected. Grand jury to decide if it was a hate crime.
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby Anatidae » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:22 am

While I, TOO - want justice.....I'm more focused on Ralph's well-being right now.

i got this in an e-mail from another mutual friend this morning:
This was posted by a friend of Ralph on facebook. "Ralph woke up today and sat up and tried to pull the tubes out of his mouth. Which is a great sign. He was then sedated again to keep the tubes in and they will try to wake him up every couple of hours. He is fighting and doing a great job of it. But as far as the brain injury goes, its still unknown of his diagnosis. Keep prayers going guys. He is fighting!!!!!!!!"
Ralph and I have gotten to be good friends and shooting buddies over the last year or so. Cal ('donia') has shot with us on occassion, too. We typically shoot at least once a week when our schedules permit. I couldn't make it to the gun club on Thursday (our usual shooting day) to shoot a couple of new guns I just acquired. He seemed to be just as excited and anxious as I was about the new purchases.

He called me around 9:00 p.m. the night he and David were assaulted.....just talking 'guns' and the possibility of shooting this past weekend.

He's always been respectful and interested in learning from this 'old guy' (he's a little over half my age) and has been my biggest supporter and strongest advocate on the shotgun field whether I'm shooting well or not, at the time. Needless to say this hits real close to home.

For those of you that don't know Ralph - he's a very likeable guy, one helluva good wingshooter, loves his dog, Nola......and is a Marine that served in the Iraq War. He is also the President of the MSU Shooting Sports Club. Some of the other officers and members of that group (which I am fortunate to be working with again this year) and myself, manned the MSUSSC tent at 'club day' on the drill field at MSU yesterday. I was pleased with the kids (Ralph's concerned friends) ability to put such a positive spirit forward, encouraging others to become involved in the Club, all the while keeping Ralph in their thoughts. He would want us to share the opportunity to learn the shooting sports with others......and we look forward to having him back on Wednesdays, again.......he'll be there whether he is able to shoot or not - I know.

He's not one to go-down without a fight......or stand-up for what's 'right'.......but I don't know him to be one to 'start' one. He's been through enough and - Life if too damn short.

If he regains all of his mental and physical functions - it'll probably be a long time before he can return to what he loves......trap, skeet, and sporting clays. He was really anticipating dove hunting with his Dad and friends this coming Monday. All this takes a back-burner right now.

So, I ask y'all to keep him and his family in your thoughts and prayers right now - and for his speedy recovery.......and not give-in to bitterness and hatred. Let's take care of Ralph, first......God will sort the rest out.

I wouldn't be surprised if the kids on the MSUSSC have a benefit shoot to raise money for a worthy cause in Ralph's behalf. At that time, if you want to do something to show your support to help Ralph cope with this.......you have an open invitation to attend.

I think the best things we can do for others lies not in what we do or say - but to 'be there' as fully as we CAN.....in a caring way.

"Among the best things we can give each other are good memories" [anonymous]. We hope we have a chance to do that when Ralph comes home.
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby LawDawg » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:48 am

Anatidae wrote: So, I ask y'all to keep him and his family in your thoughts and prayers right now - and for his speedy recovery.......and not give-in to bitterness and hatred. Let's take care of Ralph, first......God will sort the rest out.

very well said, Ant.
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby 420 racin » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:48 pm

https://www.change.org/p/forrest-allgoo ... hate-crime

here is a petetion thing to sign. Everybody go sign this

I don't know Ralph, btu my wife and he were friends back in College, she echoed what you guys have already said about what kind of man he is.

Enough is enough..
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby fireplug » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:07 pm

One article I read said he was carrying a .45 cal handgun. Guess he choose not to take the lives of his attackers and it almost cost him his life.
Sad. Had he shot one or two of those attacking him, he would have been the new whipping boy for the media. No win situation.

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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby bulldog ducker » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:08 pm

420 racin wrote:https://www.change.org/p/forrest-allgood-investigate-the-brutal-beating-of-ralph-weems-as-a-hate-crime

here is a petetion thing to sign. Everybody go sign this

I don't know Ralph, btu my wife and he were friends back in College, she echoed what you guys have already said about what kind of man he is.

Enough is enough..
Since when do you have to pay to sign a petition?
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby teul2 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:09 pm

bulldog ducker wrote:Since when do you have to pay to sign a petition?
You don't,
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby bulldog ducker » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:22 pm

When I went to sign it it sent me to a page for donations and the was no choice for no donation that I could find. Maybe I overlooked it...
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby 420 racin » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:28 pm

you had already submitted the petetion thing, that was just asking you to donate if you wanted to....
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby arduckslayer » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:31 pm

Yeah, it asks if you want to, but you don't have to. It accepts your signature to the petition without donating.
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Re: Miss Man Beaten...West Point

Postby donia » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:33 pm

fireplug wrote:One article I read said he was carrying a .45 cal handgun. Guess he choose not to take the lives of his attackers and it almost cost him his life.
Sad. Had he shot one or two of those attacking him, he would have been the new whipping boy for the media.
wasn't him, his buddy was carrying and that's what kept them from continuing to kick and beat him.

Knighten was forced to fight his way outside to the parking lot. He saw Weems on the ground getting "kicked and stomped" by a group of black men. He said there were close to twenty people in the parking lot. He told Barnes he didn't know how many people were kicking Weems, as he was fighting six to eight men himself. The former Marine somehow fought his way over to Weems and got between Weems and the crowd. Knighten pulled out a .45 caliber handgun (he holds a CCW permit) and pointed it at the crowd. The crowd immediately fled. Barnes said Knighten didn't draw the gun earlier because he didn't want to shoot into a crowd, hit someone innocent, have it taken away, or have someone else pull a gun. He said he drew his weapon when he saw how bad Weems was injured. The police arrived after the crowd dispersed. Barnes said Knighten told him racial slurs were used by the attackers but did not specify what was said.

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