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Wingman wrote:Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)[1]

I guess i stand corrected. I would not have dreamed that law enforcement could choose to shoot at a fleeing suspect like that.

Watch the videio the woman resisted her 14yr old son get's out takes off shirt (like he's gonna fight)then throws a punch at the officer,this is when only 1 officer is there before back up arrived.My point more than execissiv force is are people just not raised rite,I was taught if or when you get stopped by law enforcement is yes sir,no sir and do what's ask and comply.The media is just callin out the law why noy call out the mother for not obeying a lawfull comand and compling.She would have probley drove away with a ticket,after they finaly got them in cuff's they did find 2 weed pipes in the car.Also not being racist but look at her skin color it seem's to happen more with them,and their ansewer just like her's I was afraid.

cwink wrote:
I agree with you Wingman.. Too many people want to question the actions of LEO. It is easy to judge when you don't have an overload of adrenaline running through your body, your now sure if you're going to get shot at or not.. What about if the dude in the 7-11 runs around the back of the store and the officer gives chase and the guy is waiting on him and shoots him...

As civilians we have a duty to protect ourselves and our family, a LEO has a duty to protect all of us.. I am going to give them the bennefit of the doubt....

+1 Hindsight bias is tough to overcome in the courtroom. These days it isn't unusual for there to be multiple videos of incidents. The officer only has what he can perceive though his own 2 eyes and ears in a matter of seconds without the benefit of slow motion photography or still frames. Also, it doesn't matter how big of a no good, crackhead thief the perpetrator happens to be, he will always have some family there to cry, talk about what a good boy he was and that he never had any serious trouble with the law (despite his rap sheet that reads like an encyclopedia of crime).

Cop wanted her to pay the ticket on the spot...she didn't want to do that. Kid needed a butt kickin' for sure, so did the daughter for fighting with the cop. They ALL shoulda been tazed and sprayed IMHO. In a loaded down mini van the cops woulda caught them easily. Probably should have kept the gun holstered

Wildfowler wrote:

Wingman wrote:Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)[1]

I guess i stand corrected. I would not have dreamed that law enforcement could choose to shoot at a fleeing suspect like that.

A lot of states were ordered to change their policy and procedures after that case. Around 31 states had a law that stated that deadly force could be used on a fleeing suspect, those states were told by the Supreme Court that was unconstitutional and ordered to get rid of it.

Graham v Connor is the precedent for Use of Force incidents, Deadly Force is in this too. One thing that pertains here from that law : the 20/20 vision of hindsight must not be used to determine if the force used was reasonable, only the facts presented to the officer at the moment force was applied. I can show you video after video from all different angles and yall would have the lynch mob out.

I haven't watched the video and even if I had watched it, theres no point in me commenting on it because I wasn't there and didn't see what those officers saw. I'll say this, If they were shooting at the tires only to prevent her from driving off, that probably wasn't a good idea, but I wasn't there.

There's always another side to the story and you all should know better than to believe anything the mass media puts out and pushes over and over and over.

Graham v Connor is the precedent for Use of Force incidents, Deadly Force is in this too. One thing that pertains here from that law : the 20/20 vision of hindsight must not be used to determine if the force used was reasonable, only the facts presented to the officer at the moment force was applied. I can show you video after video from all different angles and yall would have the lynch mob out.

Was it you that showed us that video of the chase that ended in the parking lot, the perp got out of the car, ran toward the door, reached in his pocket, pulled out something in his hand, swung around and pointed it at the cops? They then mowed him down. Everybody in the room was convinced the dude had pointed a pistol at the cops.

After it was all said and done, the perp had a cell phone in his hand.

I'm sure the media coverage said something like "Cops shoot unarmed man holding cell phone".

Yes video from Louisiana