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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby Bourbon » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:06 am

For the record, I am kinding hoping he leavese. However, there is no way you can simply plug any coach into LSU and keep winning and staying in the Top 10-15 the way Miles has been able to do.

Agreed I think we could have one a few more games along the way, especially the Championship game last year. But there are only a hand full of coaches could have kept LSU in the top tier for as long as Miles has. Dinardo started the recruiting train of in-state players, Saban built up the facilities and winning attitude, but Miles has kept all that going.

I am not talking about number of wins, as I understand they pile up. But I am talking about his winning percentage, championships, wins over Top 25 opponents, record in bowl games, etc. Miles, over 5 years, had more 10 win seasons at LSU than Saban. Saban had at least three loses in every year at LSU, except the Championship year. Miles only has two seasons with more than two losses. Saban lost to UAB at LSU in Death Valley. Saban lost to ULM at Bama in Bryant-Denny.

I think Zook at Florida is a good example of how hard it is to keep things going. Florida has all the talent in the world, good facilities, money, fan support, recent history and everything else going for it when Zook was hired. And look what happened. Ask Mack Brown how hard it is to keep the winning going. Texas has more resources, greater recruiting base, as much or more history and tradition, but has had several lackluster seasons.

Now, there is no sane college football fan that would take Miles over Saban. But, my point is there aren't many coaches that could have done as good as Miles has done. That many 10 win seasons doesn't just happen, especially in the SEC. This is just to illustrate that not just anybody could done this at LSU.

Just some of Miles' records at LSU to illustrate.

Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight 10 win seasons....He has now done it twice


Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight 11 win seasons


Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight Top 5 finishes


Only LSU coach to win at least 11 games more than once, (Has five 11 win seasons)


Only coach in school history to lead LSU to a 12-0 record


Only coach in school history to lead LSU to a 13-0 record


Only LSU coach to beat Alabama, Auburn, and Florida in the same season, (he has done it 3 times)


Only LSU coach to beat Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, and Florida in the same season, (he has done it twice)


Only LSU coach to beat Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee and Georgia in the same season


Of all the LSU Coaches to coach at least 25 games, his winning percentage of 81.0% is the highest of All-Time
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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby webbmaster » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:12 am

Bourbon wrote: Remember, he has had more 10 win seasons than Saban at LSU.
Not really a relevant point because Saban inherited a mess and Miles didn't.
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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby camlock » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:15 am

Bourbon wrote:For the record, I am kinding hoping he leavese. However, there is no way you can simply plug any coach into LSU and keep winning and staying in the Top 10-15 the way Miles has been able to do.

Agreed I think we could have one a few more games along the way. But I doubt many coaches could have kept LSU in the top tier for as long as Miles has. Dinardo started the recruiting train of in-state players, Saban built up the facilities and winning attitude, but Miles has kept all that going.

I am not talking about number of wins, as I understand they pile up. But I am talking about his winning percentage, championships, wins over Top 25 opponents, record in bowl games, etc. Miles, over 5 years, had more 10 win seasons at LSU than Saban.

I think Zook at Florida is a good example of how hard it is to keep things going. Florida has all the talent in the world, good facilities, money, fan support, recent history and everything else going for it when Zook was hired. And look what happened. Ask Mack Brown how hard it is to keep the winning going. Texas has more resources, greater recruiting base, as much or more history and tradition, but has had several lackluster seasons.

Now, there is no sane college football fan that would take Miles over Saban. But, my point is there aren't many coaches that could have done as good as Miles has done. That many 10 win seasons doesn't just happen, especially in the SEC.

Just some of his records at LSU to illustrate.

Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight 10 win seasons....He has now done it twice


Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight 11 win seasons


Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight Top 5 finishes


Only LSU coach to win at least 11 games more than once, (Has five 11 win seasons)


Only coach in school history to lead LSU to a 12-0 record


Only coach in school history to lead LSU to a 13-0 record


Only LSU coach to beat Alabama, Auburn, and Florida in the same season, (he has done it 3 times)


Only LSU coach to beat Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, and Florida in the same season, (he has done it twice)


Only LSU coach to beat Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee and Georgia in the same season


Of all the LSU Coaches to coach at least 25 games, his winning percentage of 81.0% is the highest of All-Time
LSU is a sleeping giant awakened by Saban and kept on pace by Miles, Florida is surrounded by other programs with the same kind of money and fanbase, it's not a fair comparison. LSU is in a category alone, what Saban would have done had he not gone to NFL at the time with the talent coming through in-state that Miles has had...it would shadow what he's doing at Bama now...I don't think it's a fair comparison, Les Miles is luckier than whomever wins the 500 million powerball this week.

I will say this, and to it I give Miles a ton of credit...other coaches could have taken a more arrogant route with their decisions following success and not maintained success as Miles has, and there are tons of examples of the bafoons (Petrino comes to mind) that are better coaches that can't steer a ship...he does manage the situation very very well...
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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby Bourbon » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:20 am

I think it is relevant, but not compared Miles to Saban. I am not trying to compare Miles to Saban. Nobody I know would pick Miles over Saban. No doubt, Miles is one of the luckiest coaches I have watched. But doing it for seven years, takes a lot of luck.

The point is just not anybody can follow a legend and keep it going for the time frame Miles has. Miami couldn't do it, Bama was way down before Saban, Oklahoma before Stoops, etc.

There is no doubt Saban made LSU back into a national power, but to say just any coach could keep it going is ridiculous, in my opinion.

So, Spurrier was just lucky at Florida, winning with all those other schools around him? (in no way am I comparing Miles to Spurrier, by the way)
other coaches could have taken a more arrogant route with their decisions following success and not maintained success as Miles has, and there are tons of examples of the bafoons (Petrino comes to mind) that are better coaches that can't steer a ship...he does manage the situation very very well..
This is my entire point. Not just any buffoon could have followed Saban at LSU and just automatically keep winning 10 games a season. Miles is a good steerer, just not a good clapper or speaker.
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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby Deltamud77 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:31 am

If Miles leaves, which I kind of have a feeling he does for some reason (just seems like a move he would make), I think LSU probably throws the bank at a top end coach, such as a Gary Patterson, Chris Peterson, etc. They will be alright.

Heck, they should hire Petrino. I'd trade Miles for Petrino from a coaching perspective.
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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby camlock » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:34 am

be prepared for dang near anything to come out of Les Miles' mouth at 2 pm today (scheduled presser)...it's gonna be coach press speak gold regardless which direction it goes! :D
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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby dukhntn » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:44 am

Bourbon wrote:I am by no means a Les Miles sunshine pumper. .
Negatiger. :lol:

It wouldn't bother me if he left, but I don't see him doing it. I may be, and kind of hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby Bourbon » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:33 am

No doubt, never know what he will say. He is most definitely a goofball.
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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby dukhntn » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:53 pm

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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:52 pm

And...................I was right. Les gets a raise and contract extension. Surely no one really thought Les was leaving LSU to go up to Ozark Hell ---- As former Hog coach Lou Holtz once said about Fayetteville, "its not the end of the world, but you can see it from there".
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Re: Les Miles to Arkansas

Postby Deltamud77 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:14 pm

Po Monkey Lounger wrote:And...................I was right. Les gets a raise and contract extension. Surely no one really thought Les was leaving LSU to go up to Ozark Hell ---- As former Hog coach Lou Holtz once said about Fayetteville, "its not the end of the world, but you can see it from there".
Pretty amazing. I hate it...but cannot argue with his success. He has won 23 games in the last two years...against three losses (One to the national champ, one to the likely national champ and one to a top 5 BCS team this year on the road). LSU has the #2 class in the nation currently on Rivals coming in the spring. Les is your crazy, drunken, perverted uncle that made millions wildcatting oil and no one can understand how.

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