CRP or WRP?

[Wingman]

My grandmother is contemplating putting 100 acres of Pearl R. bottomland out from Carthage back in trees. The turkey hunting is exceptional on that place. I think I can work a couple of food plots into the deal, but I need to know the particulars of these two programs. (Hint: I think I can "influence" her decision

Thanks in advance.
Rob

[judge jb]

my mom put some land in the stream-side management program and my uncle put some 700 acres in trees....this being about 6 years ago.... check with your local govm't directors and be sure to not go across the line with your personal plots....it could cost her dearly if you cross that line..... trust me......

judge jb

[timberjack]

It is my understanding that WRP consists mainly of one lump sum payment after which the place is tied up forever and you are very limited as to what you can do. CRP pays you a set dollar amount per acre annually, usually $30-$40/acre. It is enrolled 10 years at a time after which you can enroll again for 10 more years or you can get out completely. I think they both require you to plant trees. For the sho-nuff gospel you should call the Leake county NRCS (WRP) and the FSA (CRP). You can also refer to the thread below for more details from "Double_R" who I believe is a NRCS forester.
http://www.ducksouth.com/phpbb/viewtopi ... sc&start=0

[Delta Duck]

I think the new crp program is for 15 year sign up.

I would not touch the WRP!

[Wingman]

Well, I got a bud here in Humphreys county, that put their land (approx. 200 acres) in CRP about 12 years ago. The CRP folks contacted them a few years ago letting them know that they could "dis-enroll" from the program with no penalties if they wanted to. Seems they were running out of money. Now, their term is up, and the CRP folks won't re-enroll it. He said the only way they would re-do it, was if they cleared the land again and re-planted. That sux.

Judge, my grandmother told me something about the streamside deal. What, 150 feet on either side of any waterflow?

Yeah, I understand the abuse policies on CRP. We asked the guys in Hump county, and they said we could disc (and plant) firelanes around the edges and some through the middle of the place. They just told us to notify them of the "firelanes" and don't get crazy with them.

Wingman

P.S. turning into my driveway today and watched about 50 mallards sail across the hiway, and land in a pothole in a beanfield right off the road Lucky suckers!

[acornman]

The CRP riparian buffer strip is 180 feet wide....on either side of the water flowage/stream.....the buffer strip program is different from the regular CRP enrollment. CRP will probably offer more flexibility over the long term....10 years is a lot different than forever on a WRP easement. However, WRP also offers a 30 year easement option...you get a smaller payment up front.

Getting a property in Leake County enrolled in WRP is not going to be as easy as it is in the Delta due to the hydric soils criteria unless it is sho'nuff wet.

Send me an e-mail if you need more info.....acornman

[Delta Duck]

We did the Contineous buffer strip a couple of years ago. 120' paid $150 up front and $51 an ac. We also did a moist soil you can do anything you want to the land except harvest the crop. Pays $41 ac. Works out great for duck holes

I have not checked on the new programs for this coming year.

[Double_R]

I'd jump on the riparian CRP and then put the remainder in regular CRP. Congress approved a lot of CRP funding in the last farm bill and from what I've heard there'll definitely be a sign up this year. The CRP program will allow food plot areas and provides a good cash stream. Visit of call the USDA Service Center in Leake County, the FSA (administer CRP program/funding) and NRCS (technical responsibility for CRP) are right there in the same building.